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Ryme Intrinseca
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Posted - 2014.11.06 01:12:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:But it is still shocking that no one on the CPM raised their hand and said "Are we really going to give out 3 million SP a week?" or informed Rattati how Boosters work. The point here is that to be honest: I am okay if someone can get 3 mil SP a week, at an exorbitant cost. Particularly if it both is helping pay for DUST development, and a chance for new players to catch up to veterans if they want to. And I don't feel that many people are going to regularly triple-stack boosters long-term. I figure they might do it for a short time if they're trying to unlock a new role. And the cap raise was a straightforward enough item, nobody had any reason to think Rattati had a different impression on how boosters work.
Was there any discussion about the fact that the game would be 3 times as much pay to win due to booster stacking (even more with instant) and four times as grindy? Those are some pretty massive red flags right there. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Eurotrash Pubstars
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Posted - 2014.11.07 13:17:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Was there any discussion about the fact that the game would be 3 times as much pay to win due to booster stacking (even more with instant) and four times as grindy? Those are some pretty massive red flags right there. As skill boosters aren't pay to win... no.
With a booster you pay cash for something (SP) that indisputably makes your character more effective. It is PTW by any measure whatsoever.
The only issue is whether boosters are an acceptable level of PTW or 'too much PTW'. I would say that a 50% SP boost to paying players is tolerable (the developer has to make money somehow) but 150%+, which is what 1.9 brought in, is really too much PTW. But that's just me, I realize some people aren't so PTW averse (or say 'it isn't really PTW because... reasons').
Quote:And I disagree with it being "more grindy". There is no obligation to cap out every week. You can reach the same amount of SP as the old cap in even less time than you used to. If you have a particular obsession with hitting the cap every week, to be honest, that might be a medical problem. You should be playing the game because you want to, and I don't think a low skill cap should cut you off or discourage continuing to play. But I don't think you should be playing just because you haven't capped yet.
Lol@'obsession with hitting the cap every week'. I hadn't played the game for six weeks until Wednesday, and uninstalled it again yesterday.
I'm basically an onlooker since I don't play the game anymore. Just find it strange that there's not more outrage about the grind aspect. So many times over the last 2 years there have been discussions about increasing the cap to 300k or 400k, with the conclusion always being that it would give no lifers too much of an advantage over ordinary players. Now all of a sudden 750k isn't grindy at all  .
I guess the elephant in the room is that the game is dead. The remaining players are the hardcore who like grinding, and don't even mind CCP blatantly squeezing every last dollar out of the game. Have to say, the vets I spoke to the last couple of days were happy with how the game is now, so it does seem to be a mutually beneficial situation for the players and the developer. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Eurotrash Pubstars
1965
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:18:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:With a booster you pay cash for something (SP) that indisputably makes your character more effective. It is PTW by any measure whatsoever. Actually, this is false. Pay-to-Win is when paying cash gets you something you can't get for free.
Boosters are pay to win even on that definition. There is no way you can get access to +50% SP gain without using real money. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Eurotrash Pubstars
1965
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Posted - 2014.11.08 10:42:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:It gets you more SP. But you can get SP for free, just slower. That is how free to play games that are pay to win work.
FTFY |
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