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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:52:00 -
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750 is fine. The misunderstanding came from a complete lack of thought and/or knowledge on how boosters work. Rattatti either forgot or didn't know that Boosters don't increase SP gained from the cap but instead provide additional SP that has nothing to do with the cap. The idea was "Hey, players can triple stack their boosters to cap out MUCH faster. Let's triple the SP to let the newer player move in a bit."
Naturally, if you allow Triple Stack Boosters that let you get into making 3 million SP a week you have gone into a serious problem. Further into the thread, it is revealed that the CPM and CCP will probably be talking about changing boosters to ONLY allow you to cap out faster. The thinking being "New players can get into things faster each week", "Not everyone will hit the 750k cap a week", and "people that want help hitting the cap will get a Booster to hit the cap." This has the benefit of saying that everyone has the same capability of SP whether they spend 30 dollars a month or not a penny.
But it is still shocking that no one on the CPM raised their hand and said "Are we really going to give out 3 million SP a week?" or informed Rattati how Boosters work. Even worse is that the forums were going crazy over the change and no Dev chimed in on it to avoid the confusion rather than electing to remove it from the patch notes and come back with a "so I massively f***ed up" apology post.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:56:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I liked the idea of the 750K skill cap because of the potential for people not to hit it. To be able to play as much as they want. I like the idea of making boosters just get you to cap faster, rather than being above cap. It answers some people's "pay to win" claims as well, since then the SP ceiling would be the same for both free and paying players.
But with the regular cap, I guess I could go with Viktor's 300k or 350k. Doubling it would be nice.
Soraya, can you answer what exactly happened during the meetings in regard to the discussion? It seems strange that no one would voice concerns about the huge amount of SP gained from boosters that would have stopped this "Oh, Boosters don't work that way?" sort of bit. However, I have seen basically EVERY CPM member make posts now about "yeah, it is too much SP and we are talking about changing how boosters work" after the Rattatti post.
Just wondering if you can answer "where were those concerns before today?" If not, no biggie.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.06 02:10:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote: the hard cap is 750k that is what the original intension was. but the playerbase thougth 750k weekly bonus... and the Tinfoil hats thought the 750k SP would multiply like the MCC SP.. which it will not.. it just means with boosters will we drain the 750k faster then with out :)
Tinfoil my ass, mate. It was pretty straightforward assessment of the situation.
1. Cap is being increased to 750k.
2. Boosters are going to stack up to three times.
3. Ergo, 750 x 2.5 = 1,875,000 potential SP a week
It isn't 'tinfoil' to assume that the developers know how boosters work or that they know what they are doing.  Why would they bring up a greatly increased cap AND triple stacking boosters if they didn't intend to have huge amount of SP? It would have been an assumption to go "Oh, boosters are going to change" or "Nah, it will be up to 750k SP a week with boosters."
As it turns out, it was just a failure to communicate. Rattati thought Boosters only increased rate of cap while those on the CPM thought "I guess they really want new players to be able to catch up." So changing the cap to 750 had Rattati thinking "people who pay will cap out faster" and the CPM, as well as players, thought "people who pay will have a LOT more SP."
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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