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Albyat Tyre
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:03:00 -
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Ban protos from publics. Proto stomping must stop. These nobodys who run proto in publics couldn't even open a paper bag without their precious proto gear. Leave them only for factionals and pcs. This is what takes the fun out of playing this game.
To live as one shall live, I prefer killing red dots.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
2377
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:06:00 -
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Often, it is not Prototype gear that results in a win but rather Squads and Tactics. If you think back to scenarios where you died, there are not all that many times where you can safely say "He killed me because he was Prototype and I wasn't." It usually only happens in stand still fights where the opponent out DPS's and/or out tanks you.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
13450
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:16:00 -
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Reserved.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Louis Domi
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
749
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:17:00 -
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I was once on a crazy proto kill streak for a day. Killed like 3 proto heavies in a row with a basic Cal sent. They saw me, they engaged me, for some reason I out strafed those 1k armor tanking yahoos.
Then a different game there was a camping proto scout Ako who was using this one redberry who was stuck into the environment as bait. He killed me once with a shotgun, I went back to the area, right before I went to kill the bait I did a random jump, charged my Ion pistol, turned around mid jump, boom head shot. I went wild because I just went for a blind shot,He was still cloaked I didn't even see him, I just shot when the cross hair turned red. |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:18:00 -
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I too get annoyed by protos but I would be lying if I said that I dont use them myself from time to time. However it is very gratifying killing expensive protos with cheap blueprint gear, even if I do go KDR negative.
Get the remotes out, get the plasma cannons out, get your forge guns out and splat the little f**kers.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2027
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:20:00 -
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I run proto in pubs all the time, and so do the people I run with in squads. Particularly if faced with defeat.
However, we'd probably stomp you in starter suits too.
What would you rage about then? Squads being OP? Teamwork and communication and situation awareness is OP?
There are counters to proto suits, and I would suggest you figure them out rather than rage. It's a much more productive use of your time. |
Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:24:00 -
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Maybe relax a bit I like killing proto suites and what you should ask for is an event no proto week or something cause they are not going to ban proto suits.
Check out the film Flame and Citron it is amazing! Wizard Talk
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Boot Booter
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
1030
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:26:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:Ban protos from publics. Proto stomping must stop. These nobodys who run proto in publics couldn't even open a paper bag without their precious proto gear. Leave them only for factionals and pcs. This is what takes the fun out of playing this game.
Orrr maybe your just not as good as you seem to think you are. Nope not a possibility; BAN ALL PROTO!! |
G Felix
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:27:00 -
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I see a lot of complaints about proto stomping, but I never see complaints about "Core stat stomping". There's no better way to burn through ISK than a gutless proto suit fitting. Core stats > proto suits and weapons, and the same players that beat up on you in pubs now still would in their advanced rigs, it would just lower the amount of ISK won at the end of battle.
Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1230
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:29:00 -
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Proto never once broke this game.
It has always help make the game worth playing.
Yesterday was Proto-Centric gameplay, and I LOVED it.
Yesterday, was imho, the Best Day that Dust has EVER had.
I haven't been that fired up about Dust, since the old school corp battles.
I wanted to try hard.
But it was serendipity. A happy accident.
Now, we're back to...... this.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7411
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:34:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:Ban protos from publics. Proto stomping must stop. These nobodys who run proto in publics couldn't even open a paper bag without their precious proto gear. Leave them only for factionals and pcs. This is what takes the fun out of playing this game.
Remove Proto suits and you will get stomped by squads of very good ADV players.
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
5835
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:38:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:Ban protos from publics. Proto stomping must stop. These nobodys who run proto in publics couldn't even open a paper bag without their precious proto gear. Leave them only for factionals and pcs. This is what takes the fun out of playing this game.
Although i disagree with you thinking proto players can't do well in pubs without there proto despite many corps in the past have done STD runs and just curb stomped in pubs and have it recorded. Proto players wear proto for a reason because they are good enough to use it efficiently.
That being said i think it would not be bad to limit pubs to STD and Adv and throw proto into FW and PC.
NEG1
EVE 21 Day Trial
Selling Templar BPO's
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Booby Tuesdays
Tuesdays With Boobies
938
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:53:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:Ban protos from publics. Proto stomping must stop. These nobodys who run proto in publics couldn't even open a paper bag without their precious proto gear. Leave them only for factionals and pcs. This is what takes the fun out of playing this game.
I have more than enough ISK to run full proto for the rest of my Dust career, but I don't. I run standard and advanced in pubs, advanced and proto in FW, and full proto in PC (which I haven't done in 4 months). It's more of the principal of the matter than anything.
I'm not here defending the use of all proto, all the time. I'm just saying that most of the proto stompers have more money than god, and also get funded by their corps to do so. Money means nothing to them, and they are squaded up with talented players, so why wouldn't they run the best gear possible? For teh lulz and teh QQ.
I would do the same if I was them, however I am not them, and I get no joy out of curbstomping redberries. My joy comes from doing better than them on the battle field and the leaderboard, running solo in basic and advanced gear, while popping their tanks and mass driving their shiny proto suits.
That said, squad based gameplay is the only way to roll in this game. Playing solo, unless you really know what you are doing, is insanely difficult and extremely frustrating. Grab a squad of like minded individuals and have some fun! 'Tis but a game after all! 
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Ivy Zalinto
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
417
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Posted - 2014.11.05 23:57:00 -
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I kill proto's pretty often and fairly easily unless their in large groups. Thats what re's are for...those groups of them that are hunting me cause i had the audacity to spawn in a game they were in. **** off and stop chasing me mean people!- Rocks back and forth with visions of being hunted-
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Pay attention to your surroundings or your getting 2 in the back of the head.
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
356
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:03:00 -
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Bring in tierside as an option CCP. Make it happen.
And no, you CANT have my ISK!!!
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17625
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:07:00 -
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Not happening.
I usually go with a bpo fit its very obvious they're all proto; that way even if I do kill one of these proto stompers (I generlaly get 4 or 5 of them) i definitely win the isk war.
Pub matches payouts are pretty low still and killing a proto just once can set them back the entire match. So when you kill em 8-10 times :D
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
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Lynn Beck
Delta Vanguard 6
2185
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:08:00 -
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When i run proto its because i simply NEED that 3rd Low on my minja.
If we could make all suit tiers have the same slot counts i would be able to run a 2 basicdamp 1 basic range minja instead of going mental and stuffing full proto down your throat.
General John Ripper
-BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse.
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hold that
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
347
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:15:00 -
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wtf is wrong with these people. i get in pubs squads where i hear dudes talk so much crap about: i never run proto, or: look at these scubs running proto. in fact, you are the scrub! the biggest scrubs of the game! why the fk would i not run a proto logi with a rep tool, needle, hive, uplink? instead i should only run a suit where i only have a 35/s rep tool and a 30% needle? how does that help my team win at all? why the fk would i not want 200 more armor or shields, or 10% more damage? why the fk did i invest 20 mil skill points in cores (did you even raise your cores?), suits, and equipment? why the fk can't you run proto? i don't understand! you are like those asian kids i used to play street fighter with at my local 7-11, who said no throws or throwing fireballs because they are cheap |
sir RAVEN WING
Huogikku Corporation
Heiian Conglomerate
111
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:16:00 -
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Did I kill you a few games ago? Yesterday? Last week? I don't 'proto stomp' I kill those who are a threat and I push objectives, pretty good for a guy who normally goes alone huh?
Your problem with proto stomping is the same as my problem with scouts, the only difference is that I have found my method of dealing with my problem. What am I saying? I'm saying find a way to kill them or maybe just run starters like I sometimes do until you have dealt with them. Can't? Then leave the match and find a new one.
"All war is the result of one man's madness."
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan
General Tso's Alliance
1661
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:26:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I run proto in pubs all the time, and so do the people I run with in squads. Particularly if faced with defeat.
However, we'd probably stomp you in starter suits too.
What would you rage about then? Squads being OP? Teamwork and communication and situation awareness is OP?
Militia is OP.
Texted my wife. She said she wants two holo strippers for her room. She also wants a holo penguin butler.
-Ripley
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1221
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:28:00 -
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Problem?
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1361
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:29:00 -
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Me personally , I don't care about people running PRO fits because 9 times out of 10 the team I'm on is loosing anyway because their random running around , uncoordinated , confused , shooting at each other while throwing grenades as well , not covering each others flank and wearing all light and scout suits or not grabbing some AV when confronted by HAV's or ADS's .
Pro is not the reason that I can't have fun , it's random players that just don't know how to work together for anything and then wonder why everything is red .
Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
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Sinboto Simmons
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
6480
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:33:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Bring in tierside as an option CCP. Make it happen.
I always scratched my head at people like this, with tierside also comes increased number of skill bonuses, tiers of gear, and less money being made in the current design as most isk comes from value of destroyed gear.
"Look at eve." they say, usually having never played it, not understanding how much of an advantage vets have.
Tierside won't erase the problem, it'd make it far worse and further peeve off those who spent three years building their mercs, then the new guys who can't stack up to a system that's strictly skill bonuses and squad tactics.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp .
1361
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:39:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Bring in tierside as an option CCP. Make it happen. I always scratched my head at people like this, with tierside also comes increased number of skill bonuses, tiers of gear, and less money being made in the current design as most isk comes from value of destroyed gear. "Look at eve." they say, usually having never played it, not understanding how much of an advantage vets have. Tierside won't erase the problem, it'd make it far worse and further peeve off those who spent three years building their mercs, then the new guys who can't stack up to a system that's strictly skill bonuses and squad tactics.
I agree and I always think , " Hell you have legion already going to the PC , what the frack else do you people want .?., oh yeah .. everything ... just the way that YOU like it . You have legion , try that $h!T with that and see how that goes for you but leave Dust alone and let them fix this $h!t , not add ANOTHER headache ." It's just sad the lengths that these people want and will go .
Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3759
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:43:00 -
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Proto is a factor, but even less so than the combination of skill and teamwork of an organized squad or two. |
Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES
FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
174
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:45:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Often, it is not Prototype gear that results in a win but rather Squads and Tactics. If you think back to scenarios where you died, there are not all that many times where you can safely say "He killed me because he was Prototype and I wasn't." It usually only happens in stand still fights where the opponent out DPS's and/or out tanks you.
The higher your ewar core skills and the better the gear the easier the game becomes, so little tactics are applied.
It isn't just gear levels that oppress your abilities.
I could say that stats being indverse the higher the gear level goes imbalances the game a bit.
It would be nice if we could mess around a bit with stats and make it where everything basic is the most efficient and everything proto is the most powerful.
Just test it with some weapons, suits, certain modules etc.
If snipers and scouts were removed for a day: This would be a one-day Dust version Pax Romana.
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Mex-0
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
118
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Posted - 2014.11.06 00:53:00 -
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lol
9/10 times I am killed is by MLT/basic gear users because I get careless.
I used the bolt pistol before it was (OP) cool.
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CUSE WarLord
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
36
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Posted - 2014.11.06 01:05:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:Ban protos from publics. Proto stomping must stop. These nobodys who run proto in publics couldn't even open a paper bag without their precious proto gear. Leave them only for factionals and pcs. This is what takes the fun out of playing this game. you are soft and cry to much. there has all ways been some proto in pub matchs. more proto people you kill the more isk you make.
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