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el OPERATOR
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Posted - 2014.11.05 18:10:00 -
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My first guess is that CCP has the data revealing scouts as horribly imbalanced and instead of straight nerfing them they're trying instead to buff other areas of the game to try and balance the overall gameplay.
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el OPERATOR
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Posted - 2014.11.05 18:15:00 -
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And scans don't render flanking obsolete, it just forces flanking to grow from a simple manuever to one that requires a little more pragmaticism and awareness. And willingness to change directions as conditions dictate.
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el OPERATOR
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Posted - 2014.11.06 18:41:00 -
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Respeccing is a thing now, so get damps, get prec, get range amps, quit QQing, adapt and Get Gud.
sheesh, this whole qqscanners thing is retodded. CoD and BF1942 called, they miss you over there....
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el OPERATOR
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Posted - 2014.11.06 19:31:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:And scans don't render flanking obsolete, it just forces flanking to grow from a simple manuever to one that requires a little more pragmaticism and awareness. And willingness to change directions as conditions dictate. If you're actively scanned and everyone knows where you're then flanking isn't an option anymore. Either way your enemy will know to expect you.
News Flash: The enemy already expects you, thats why theyre scanning. Pro-Tip: Flanking is ALWAYS an option. Read above quote in bold .
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el OPERATOR
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Posted - 2014.11.06 20:45:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:And scans don't render flanking obsolete, it just forces flanking to grow from a simple manuever to one that requires a little more pragmaticism and awareness. And willingness to change directions as conditions dictate. If you're actively scanned and everyone knows where you're then flanking isn't an option anymore. Either way your enemy will know to expect you. News Flash: The enemy already expects you, thats why theyre scanning. Pro-Tip: Flanking is ALWAYS an option. Read above quote in bold . Flanking is when you attack them where they don't have a defense. If they know where you're coming from then they will face you head on. That's not flanking.
Any change in their direction, while eliminating a flanking opportunity, creates a new flanking opportunity. Read above quote in italicized bold .
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el OPERATOR
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:05:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:el OPERATOR wrote: Any change in their direction, while eliminating a flanking opportunity, creates a new flanking opportunity. Read above quote in italicized bold .
So basically, you have to attack with two people? Because if it's just one person the defending party can simply rotate to face the aggressive push head on.
"Flanking" is an attack that occupies two fronts, yes. The front, and the flank. If your opponent spins to face an attack on their flank, they expose the previous front as an available flank. Is this new for you? Because this is what flanking is all about, one side occupies the attention while the other side occupies the kill. Really basic stuff here.
If you're "flanking" without the opponents attention being diverted, you aren't really flanking, you're just attacking them and depending on how well dressed you are for the occassion you are highly likely to find the party very short.
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el OPERATOR
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:46:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:"Flanking" is an attack that occupies two fronts, yes. The front, and the flank. If your opponent spins to face an attack on their flank, they expose the previous front as an available flank. Is this new for you? Because this is what flanking is all about, one side occupies the attention while the other side occupies the kill. Really basic stuff here.
If you're "flanking" without the opponents attention being diverted, you aren't really flanking, you're just attacking them and depending on how well dressed you are for the occassion you are highly likely to find the party very short. When I flank I flank I usually go around the entirety of the enemy team almost to the back of the map. Then I slowly attack people in the back, then the middle and then move to the front. So I don't just flank one guy at the frontline; I flank around everyone. Scanners practically eliminate this playstyle.
I do the same and from experience, the style is not eliminated. You DO need to be smarter about it, more Solid Snake and less Riddick. And if this kind of sneaking is your forte, you should be having 0 issue with any scans since you're more than able to build a fit that will defeat ANY scans in here and the only worry you need have is that the red you just ghosted is telling his friends where you are on comms.
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el OPERATOR
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Posted - 2014.11.06 21:48:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:I honestly honestly think we should remove ALL forms of scanning out right. Remove passives, remove actives and then watch how the game changes overnight.
Then we could introduce a scan mechanism similar to other games where it sweeps and area, or drops in a scan in a selected area - this could be something you need WP for. Like the orbital mechanics but a little cheaper of course.
Yeah, scouthell514evenmore. Great idea
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el OPERATOR
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Posted - 2014.11.06 22:07:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This one thing has apparently changed active scanners from 'lol nobody uses them' to 'OP as ****'.
Funny thing is, I've been running scans for a while now and the scans haven't changed, just the effects of the scanner mis-information campaign. Classic case of, "People Hear What They Want to Hear".
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