DUST Search - [Suggestion] Increase Mass Driver efficacy against vehicles to 100%

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Finn Colman wrote:

John Demonsbane wrote:

Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:

I'd prefer if only the breach operated that way, and the other two were just buffed a smidge more for efficiency.

Breach needs some serious love.

Yeah, breach MD as an AV weapon is an appealing fix. Makes it no longer useless and gives the minmatar an AV weapon at the same time.

It would be nice if when I shot my Breach MD at a dropship that is hovering over my team (which I usually do anyway if there aren't any other reds around) it would actually do something significant. I'm already fairly decent at hitting when I do that, so it kind of makes me sad that it only does 50% damage.

Edit: Even if it was 100% effective it would only do 420 damage, so either the effectiveness rating against vehicles would have to go up to 150%-200%(?) or the direct damage would have to go up significantly.

That would give it higher DPS than the Plasma Cannon. No.
Mass Drivers don't deserve to do higher DPS than a Plasma Cannon.


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Finn Colman Immortal Guides 49	Posted - 2014.11.04 19:23:00 - [1] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I'd prefer if only the breach operated that way, and the other two were just buffed a smidge more for efficiency. Breach needs some serious love. Yeah, breach MD as an AV weapon is an appealing fix. Makes it no longer useless and gives the minmatar an AV weapon at the same time. It would be nice if when I shot my Breach MD at a dropship that is hovering over my team (which I usually do anyway if there aren't any other reds around) it would actually do something significant. I'm already fairly decent at hitting when I do that, so it kind of makes me sad that it only does 50% damage. The little Min with the little voice.
Finn Colman Immortal Guides 51	Posted - 2014.11.04 21:07:00 - [2] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Yeah, in favor of this. The mass driver is a close range weapon when it comes to AV, a vehicle user can outrun the MD without a problem. But when they loiter, yes, it's time to get popped. Return efficiency to 100% for all MDs. I'm not sure if there is enough damage that 100% efficiency with the current damage to effectively deter anything more than a LAV, not even with the Breach MD. The little Min with the little voice.
Finn Colman Immortal Guides 51	Posted - 2014.11.04 21:14:00 - [3] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Finn Colman wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I'd prefer if only the breach operated that way, and the other two were just buffed a smidge more for efficiency. Breach needs some serious love. Yeah, breach MD as an AV weapon is an appealing fix. Makes it no longer useless and gives the minmatar an AV weapon at the same time. It would be nice if when I shot my Breach MD at a dropship that is hovering over my team (which I usually do anyway if there aren't any other reds around) it would actually do something significant. I'm already fairly decent at hitting when I do that, so it kind of makes me sad that it only does 50% damage. Edit: Even if it was 100% effective it would only do 420 damage, so either the effectiveness rating against vehicles would have to go up to 150%-200%(?) or the direct damage would have to go up significantly. That would give it higher DPS than the Plasma Cannon. No. Mass Drivers don't deserve to do higher DPS than a Plasma Cannon. Sorry, yeah. I did the math, just a second ago, and found that it can actually do enough damage to effectively deter most vehicles once skill bonuses are applied... I completely forgot to consider that the first time... 100% would be good enough. I completely forgot to do any sort of actual math the first time... sorry. The little Min with the little voice.
Finn Colman Immortal Guides 51	Posted - 2014.11.04 21:53:00 - [4] - Quote A quick note, I've edited my former posts to correct for my own idiocy, hopefully. The little Min with the little voice.
Finn Colman Immortal Guides 51	Posted - 2014.11.04 22:04:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I don't feel like I need another thing to worry about on the field. Once CCP ends the reign of Jihad Jeeps I'm all pro-Breach Mass Driver. I don't really blame you, I've seen one of those things flying at a HAV and while I usually am happy that the tank is gone (because most of the time I see this being done when nothing else is really working), I do hate that it ended in that way. I don't like the Jihad Jeeps even if they're on my team, probably because it is tantamount to getting my ADS rammed by militia DS. The little Min with the little voice.
Finn Colman Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 99	Posted - 2014.12.22 02:14:00 - [6] - Quote Last time I fired my Breach MD at an ADS it had a an 80% rating against the shields (HAVs are 50%). The ADS did not appear to be worried at all, not even after I shot it three times. PSA: Tell players to terminate in order to access mCRUs.
Finn Colman Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 99	Posted - 2014.12.22 02:39:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I cry every time someone suggests adding more AV options, especially explosive ones, in an AV climate where there are literally half a dozen more effective anti armour options, and no one ever makes a comment of gives a ** about how mediocre being a vehicle pilot in this game is..... We definitely need some Anti-shield AV, I only recently started flying shield DS and it felt too safe in comparison to the armor DS, and the armor DS are killed way too easily. PSA: Tell players to terminate in order to access mCRUs.**
Finn Colman Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 123	Posted - 2015.01.18 15:22:00 - [8] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Didn't I point out in another thread that this would push the direct DPS of the Breach Mass Driver to a higher level than the direct DPS of the Plasma Cannon? That should in no way happen. Ever. A Mass Driver, even the Breach variant, just doesn't deserve that. If you ignore the damage profile of the BrMD, then it is already at 100% against DS. I've fired my entire cylinder at a DS, and it didn't care at all. Currently, it works well to soften a DS for someone who is using real AV, but fails to even deter vehicles. PSA: Tell players to terminate in order to access mCRUs.