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Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 902	Posted - 2014.11.02 21:17:00 - [1] - Quote Will this be a thing? Whatever the AUR value is in Dust ISK. If you're pushing for a 'truly' free-2-play experience you should consider it. Word Crimes EvE - 21 Day Buddy Trial
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 10057	Posted - 2014.11.02 22:04:00 - [2] - Quote Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3681	Posted - 2014.11.02 22:17:00 - [3] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. Would very much like to see this happen. See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 10058	Posted - 2014.11.02 22:22:00 - [4] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. Would very much like to see this happen. Care to send the memo to the Dust team when you have the time? On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 904	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:18:00 - [5] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. Fine idea! Word Crimes EvE - 21 Day Buddy Trial
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4396	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:22:00 - [6] - Quote Much as it pains me to say this... make sure that the trade window cannot be exploited before you implement this feature, like a confirm button that unchecks itself if someone makes a change after it is engaged. Scamming is one thing, but there's a difference between tricking someone out of an aurum item, and using a UI mechanical exploit to relieve someone of items bought for real world cash. Scamming: YES User Interface exploits: NO EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 364	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:32:00 - [7] - Quote Theres's way too much logic and sound reasoning in this thread. Get this bullshit out of general discussion. (I like the ideas tho) Opus Arcana \| TBD Ringleader Hi
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3694	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:38:00 - [8] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. Would very much like to see this happen. Care to send the memo to the Dust team when you have the time? AFAIK CCP Rattati has had this on his wishlist for awhile now. There are all the usual considerations of tech, resources et al so nothing is confirmed until a Dev Blog says so because at this stage it may not happen, but it is being looked at and hopefully we'll be seeing it deployed at some point in the future. o7 See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4402	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:43:00 - [9] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. Would very much like to see this happen. Care to send the memo to the Dust team when you have the time? AFAIK CCP Rattati has had this on his wishlist for awhile now. There are all the usual considerations of tech, resources et al so nothing is confirmed until a Dev Blog says so because at this stage it may not happen, but it is being looked at and hopefully we'll be seeing it deployed at some point in the future. o7 EDIT: As Mr. Stuff rightly points out there are some key aspects which would need to be in place for this feature to truly be an asset, part of why the evaluation process is on going, But Rattati being Rattati it is quite likely that if/when this gets to the point of being an actionable idea we'll see a feedback thread on the forums and everyone can post their ideas for how to exploit it so that those can be addressed prior to deployment. tell rattati to make sure his wishlist has no reasonable mechanical exploits in the UI before implementation. As I said above: Scamming = YES Mechanical exploits which remove the need to be clever = NO Edit: No matter how many people actually DO pay attention to me this time, I cannot stress this point enough. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 10068	Posted - 2014.11.04 01:15:00 - [10] - Quote Actually, some people do use the trade window. The better statement is not "no one uses the trade window" but rather "only fools are willing to trust a stranger through a trade window". And as New Eden has demonstrated for the past 11 years straight, there is no shortage of fools. Case in point: http://themittani.com/features/alod-go-back-wow On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 255	Posted - 2014.11.04 02:28:00 - [11] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. All CCP has to do is make a GIVE ITEM option like the GIVE MONEY one and we can make our own market. And add an arum transfer thing so people can trade old BPOs for aur. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 31mil sp -` R.I.P Dust 514

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 10128	Posted - 2014.11.04 02:56:00 - [12] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. All CCP has to do is make a GIVE ITEM option like the GIVE MONEY one and we can make our own market. And add an arum transfer thing so people can trade old BPOs for aur. The minimum requirement for this kind of feature is from the Assets, click any ISK item, "send to player" - QTY, Then at least we could have a rudimentary trust-based broker system. Scamming would obviously happen one day. Corps could manage their corp asset through a CEO or director, by having all members aggregate officer gear to them. Not saying it's happening, but if it could, this would be my preferred first baby step. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6901	Posted - 2014.11.04 03:03:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: PLAYSTTION wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. All CCP has to do is make a GIVE ITEM option like the GIVE MONEY one and we can make our own market. And add an arum transfer thing so people can trade old BPOs for aur. The minimum requirement for this kind of feature is from the Assets, click any ISK item, "send to player" - QTY, Then at least we could have a rudimentary trust-based broker system. Scamming would obviously happen one day. Corps could manage their corp asset through a CEO or director, by having all members aggregate officer gear to them. Not saying it's happening, but if it could, this would be my preferred first baby step. As has been previously barked many times by the war dogs: Rudimentary is better than nothing. Albeit, if this were a thing, you'd have to figure out a way to issue out 'tokens' instead of behind-the-scenes changes for things like Respecs and Agents. Then we could truly get a player economy going, if only by word of mouth supply/demand in the Bazaar forums. Important Legion Transparency Post Lv5
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1816	Posted - 2014.11.04 03:20:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: PLAYSTTION wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. All CCP has to do is make a GIVE ITEM option like the GIVE MONEY one and we can make our own market. And add an arum transfer thing so people can trade old BPOs for aur. The minimum requirement for this kind of feature is from the Assets, click any ISK item, "send to player" - QTY, Then at least we could have a rudimentary trust-based broker system. Scamming would obviously happen one day. Corps could manage their corp asset through a CEO or director, by having all members aggregate officer gear to them. Not saying it's happening, but if it could, this would be my preferred first baby step. Wait! Did you just say acknowledge this??? Based on how awesome you are i expect this feature to be in game in about 2 or three months... not because i said it but because i believe you believe it would make the game much better and i know that most of what you have done for dust is because you believe it will add to the games value. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
ContraBanJoe GOAT FLOCK YOURSELF FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 403	Posted - 2014.11.04 03:36:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: PLAYSTTION wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. All CCP has to do is make a GIVE ITEM option like the GIVE MONEY one and we can make our own market. And add an arum transfer thing so people can trade old BPOs for aur. The minimum requirement for this kind of feature is from the Assets, click any ISK item, "send to player" - QTY, Then at least we could have a rudimentary trust-based broker system. Scamming would obviously happen one day. Corps could manage their corp asset through a CEO or director, by having all members aggregate officer gear to them. Not saying it's happening, but if it could, this would be my preferred first baby step. This is something we absolutely would use. I would highly recommend this be put on a "to do" list for any future patch to the client. I can guarantee you a very large portion of the community would love to see this happen! CPM PLEASE ADVOCATE for the baby step CCP Rattati has considered. FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE PXRXO / FWARM / TTOTS / MXOXD / GFYOU DOUBLE FIST
Xatha De'Agelle Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 6	Posted - 2014.11.04 07:53:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: PLAYSTTION wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. All CCP has to do is make a GIVE ITEM option like the GIVE MONEY one and we can make our own market. And add an arum transfer thing so people can trade old BPOs for aur. The minimum requirement for this kind of feature is from the Assets, click any ISK item, "send to player" - QTY, Then at least we could have a rudimentary trust-based broker system. Scamming would obviously happen one day. Corps could manage their corp asset through a CEO or director, by having all members aggregate officer gear to them. Not saying it's happening, but if it could, this would be my preferred first baby step. Please do this, even if it is trust based, we need a basic trade system. Please do this.
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 450	Posted - 2014.11.04 09:57:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The minimum requirement for this kind of feature is from the Assets, click any ISK item, "send to player" - QTY, Then at least we could have a rudimentary trust-based broker system. Scamming would obviously happen one day. Corps could manage their corp asset through a CEO or director, by having all members aggregate officer gear to them. Not saying it's happening, but if it could, this would be my preferred first baby step. Why not cut out the middle-man completely? We don't need one for sending isk, why do we need one for sending assets?
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 2989	Posted - 2014.11.04 10:17:00 - [18] - Quote A copy of borderlands player barter would be more than enough. With my friend FOTM Duke
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 702	Posted - 2014.11.04 10:23:00 - [19] - Quote Boosters should be buyable with ISK. Really they should just turn boosters into a MLEX, akin to eve's PLEX. As long as you have a MLEX, you gain boosted SP.

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1321	Posted - 2014.11.04 14:42:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: PLAYSTTION wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. All CCP has to do is make a GIVE ITEM option like the GIVE MONEY one and we can make our own market. And add an arum transfer thing so people can trade old BPOs for aur. The minimum requirement for this kind of feature is from the Assets, click any ISK item, "send to player" - QTY, Then at least we could have a rudimentary trust-based broker system. Scamming would obviously happen one day. Corps could manage their corp asset through a CEO or director, by having all members aggregate officer gear to them. Not saying it's happening, but if it could, this would be my preferred first baby step. I can offer my services as broker DUSTSearch DUSTBoard DUST Server Status


Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2481	Posted - 2014.11.04 15:20:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: PLAYSTTION wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. All CCP has to do is make a GIVE ITEM option like the GIVE MONEY one and we can make our own market. And add an arum transfer thing so people can trade old BPOs for aur. The minimum requirement for this kind of feature is from the Assets, click any ISK item, "send to player" - QTY, Then at least we could have a rudimentary trust-based broker system. Scamming would obviously happen one day. Corps could manage their corp asset through a CEO or director, by having all members aggregate officer gear to them. Not saying it's happening, but if it could, this would be my preferred first baby step. It's a step and a feature that will make you guys money. Bringing the entire community of DUST 514 indirectly into the Aurum market will encourage micro transaction sales. It will also shut me up about a Aurum based Respec being essentially a P2W feature giving the dynamic of DUST's development cycle and the appearance of a different FOTM each patch. It will allow all motivated parties to participate, while increasing the bottom line for CCP. A Win win. there will always be scamming in a CCP game aslong as it is facilitated by CCP themselves. Character sales and transfers in EVE are strictly enforced by a 0 scam rule from CCP. it has allowed players to safetly make their transactions without getting screwed over for their real money investment. Unless this is something you want for DUST, Players working scams around Peer 2 peer Aurum or Aurum Item transfers.
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 906	Posted - 2014.11.06 07:30:00 - [22] - Quote Considering I wasn't even thinking of a trade like idea, this thread turned out quite beautifully! SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
Raedon Vo-Graza Armored Dragon Dust 41	Posted - 2014.11.06 14:35:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: PLAYSTTION wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. All CCP has to do is make a GIVE ITEM option like the GIVE MONEY one and we can make our own market. And add an arum transfer thing so people can trade old BPOs for aur. The minimum requirement for this kind of feature is from the Assets, click any ISK item, "send to player" - QTY, Then at least we could have a rudimentary trust-based broker system. Scamming would obviously happen one day. Corps could manage their corp asset through a CEO or director, by having all members aggregate officer gear to them. Not saying it's happening, but if it could, this would be my preferred first baby step. I hope this does happen, I have quite a lot of stuff i have been wanting to give my corp-mates for a long time; officer/proto weapons, suits, even bpo's that i don't use anymore. i don't quite like the idea of selling my proto gear that i don't use just for money, if i can help someone out, then I'd rather that. edit: I'll be keeping an eye on this forum and any others that come up about trading, we really need it.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4559	Posted - 2014.11.06 14:47:00 - [24] - Quote Trading is needed but will be exploited. Accept it now and educate your new players. Hopefully the scams won't be trade window exploits. In fact I hope CCP makes trade windows require a dual lock so that if someone changes something after you lock in the window unlocks. Scamming = YES Mechanical exploit making cleverness unnecessary = NO EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Raedon Vo-Graza Armored Dragon Dust 42	Posted - 2014.11.06 14:51:00 - [25] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Trading is needed but will be exploited. Accept it now and educate your new players. Hopefully the scams won't be trade window exploits. In fact I hope CCP makes trade windows require a dual lock so that if someone changes something after you lock in the window unlocks. Scamming = YES Mechanical exploit making cleverness unnecessary = NO that wouldn't be a bad idea, in eve online that actually happens already. if i put something in then check accept, and the other person puts something in afterward, that check next to my name goes away and i have to hit accept again. i would figure that it would be implemented anyway.
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14909	Posted - 2014.11.06 15:56:00 - [26] - Quote Yes Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+ Bitter Vet extraordinaire
Hector Carson BLACK MAGES INC. 73	Posted - 2014.11.06 17:04:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: PLAYSTTION wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Two Words: Trade Window No, not the main market feature. I'm talking about private player-to-player transactions. Both players would need to be online and present for the transaction to finish. This way, players can sell respecs and boosters to other players for ISK and CCP continues to get more money. We all win. CCP, make this happen in the next update. All CCP has to do is make a GIVE ITEM option like the GIVE MONEY one and we can make our own market. And add an arum transfer thing so people can trade old BPOs for aur. The minimum requirement for this kind of feature is from the Assets, click any ISK item, "send to player" - QTY, Then at least we could have a rudimentary trust-based broker system. Scamming would obviously happen one day. Corps could manage their corp asset through a CEO or director, by having all members aggregate officer gear to them. Not saying it's happening, but if it could, this would be my preferred first baby step. In less complicated words, not gonna happen Scout shoots Sentinel like a BOSS.........with a Bolt Pistol


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