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DarthPlagueis TheWise 213	Posted - 2014.11.01 15:09:00 - [1] - Quote How else are we going to clear those damn rooftop camping uplinks? Certainly not with OBs anymore. Especially the tricky as hell ones that you can't OB and have a hard time landing a MLT dropship on. ****, I might skill into a python just for this purpose alone. (Or I guess an Incubus to be harder to kill) Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DarthPlagueis TheWise 213	Posted - 2014.11.01 15:15:00 - [2] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: How else are we going to clear those damn rooftop camping uplinks? Certainly not with OBs anymore. Especially the tricky as hell ones that you can't OB and have a hard time landing a MLT dropship on. ****, I might skill into a python just for this purpose alone. (Or I guess an Incubus to be harder to kill) They will spawn thousands of swarms just to stop you... Trust me its a waste of money.. Sigh... its no wonder our corp's star pilots haven't been signing on. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DarthPlagueis TheWise 213	Posted - 2014.11.01 15:25:00 - [3] - Quote Well I just read the discussion archives and it just sounds like a twitch community reaction to ADS not being God-mode anymore. You've got to admit, those things were a terror on the battlefield. I honestly refuse to believe an ADS that's committed to clearing a rooftop the entire match can't at least harass it, keeping the enemy AV on their toes. And the less heavily guarded uplinks on top of structures should be easy to take out. Trust me, being a Forge Gunner I can guarantee you it's a pain in the ******* ass to keep track of those ADS. As long as they keep moving in and out of our range we WILL get distracted, and we WILL have to need a quick reaction time to target them again once they reappear. Your infantry should be keeping AV busy. I think that's the key here. Coordinating with your squad should give ADS a nice opening to do whatever the hell it needs to do. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DarthPlagueis TheWise 214	Posted - 2014.11.01 15:47:00 - [4] - Quote Ghaz, I was more talking about being frustrated that everyone sees ADS as useless now. I really don't feel like they are useless. That post was more of a reaction to me reading what Rattati had to say. It did sound like he was having a pretty "data means more than what the community thinks" attitude. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DarthPlagueis TheWise 217	Posted - 2014.11.01 16:13:00 - [5] - Quote ****, I mean vehicles in a shooter can't get worse than Destiny. One rocket launcher and that flimsy little tank is toast. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DarthPlagueis TheWise 222	Posted - 2014.11.01 20:54:00 - [6] - Quote **** man i'm going to feel guilty pulling out my proto forge anymore then again... i just remembered there was a python doing insanely well in a proto stomp. shot down my forge gun suit right as it spawned. so there's still that. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DarthPlagueis TheWise 226	Posted - 2014.11.02 05:36:00 - [7] - Quote I should just make a chat channel called "bringing ADS back" where ADS pilots can find squads that are willing to hunt down and destroy swarm users. Or maybe call it "swarm hunters." It seems to me like Rattati was looking at the wrong data... just comparing one SL user to one ADS pilot. Would've probably turned out better if he had compared 2 swarm launchers VS one ADS. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DarthPlagueis TheWise 228	Posted - 2014.11.02 05:47:00 - [8] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: How else are we going to clear those damn rooftop camping uplinks? Certainly not with OBs anymore. Especially the tricky as hell ones that you can't OB and have a hard time landing a MLT dropship on. ****, I might skill into a python just for this purpose alone. (Or I guess an Incubus to be harder to kill) You was never able to clear rooftops with OB.. The only time it wouldn't work was if the uplink was glitched onto the floor, onto a null cannon, or on a lower elevation than the top floor but still high enough that you cant reach it. A lot of the time you could still wipe out their entire team in the process and begin countermeasures if an uplink survived. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DarthPlagueis TheWise 228	Posted - 2014.11.02 05:53:00 - [9] - Quote says the guy who tried to get the swarm launcher officer weapon Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DarthPlagueis TheWise 228	Posted - 2014.11.02 05:58:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: says the guy who tried to get the swarm launcher officer weapon So what? Hearing the words "swarms do more damage than forge guns now" was all I needed to know. That's ridiculous. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location

DarthPlagueis TheWise 228	Posted - 2014.11.02 06:07:00 - [11] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: No one said they were useless. Heck, I almost always have a seat in PC as a pilot. A lot of the complaints come from the effectiveness of swarms now. Swarms have higher sustained DPS than an Assault Forge (and that's before Commando bonuses), near perfect damage application (at least against ADSs), and also a slew of bugs that make it even more difficult to engage. Not to mention that there are still some things wrong with ADSs: AV is much more difficult (especially in a rail incubus), Python is capable of both AV and AI at the same time (would actually be a nerf to ADSs), skill bonuses are lackluster. To name a few. Blame that guy. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DarthPlagueis TheWise 229	Posted - 2014.11.02 06:57:00 - [12] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: However, in the time it takes to charge a forge, you can have the first volley impact, another sent and be locking in the third. Bad Comparison IMO. On one hand, I'm fine with ADS's being much more fragile. But if they are going to be fragile little butterflies, they NEED to be cheaper. Much cheaper. Like 150k for a full fit (which is the iconic price of a full proto fit) I can pull of some crazy **** at double the range of a swarm launcher though. I don't even know how I do it without a mouse and keyboard. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DarthPlagueis TheWise 233	Posted - 2014.11.02 10:34:00 - [13] - Quote dropships aren't that small when they're at the edge of a forge gun's range. they're just about as big as the targeting reticle itself im saying i still feel like a skilled forger is more dangerous than a swarmer. i just wish ADS pilots could see it from my perspective, because I think they're still very useful on the battlefield but yeah they do need a bigger price drop Bolas deploys tank in strategic location

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