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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:04:00 -
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Atiim wrote:There are several Myron & Madrugar fits that can survive Swarm Launchers, provided that you don't stand there like an idiot and actually get to cover when your being fired at.
Though I should note that there has only been a single Swarm Launcher buff since Uprising 1.2.
The stupid, it makes me want to have a seizure to forget about it.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:06:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:There are several Myron & Madrugar fits that can survive Swarm Launchers, provided that you don't stand there like an idiot and actually get to cover when your being fired at.
Though I should note that there has only been a single Swarm Launcher buff since Uprising 1.2. The stupid, it makes me want to have a seizure to forget about it. You can try all you want Spkr, but you can't forget who you are inside.
What's that supposed to mean?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2014.10.31 18:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:There are several Myron & Madrugar fits that can survive Swarm Launchers, provided that you don't stand there like an idiot and actually get to cover when your being fired at.
Though I should note that there has only been a single Swarm Launcher buff since Uprising 1.2. The stupid, it makes me want to have a seizure to forget about it. You can try all you want Spkr, but you can't forget who you are inside. What's that supposed to mean? You said you wanted to have a seizure to forget who you truly are (the stupid).
You're not making any sense at all.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2014.11.01 06:40:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Proto swarms/forge and tank pilot here, and there's definitely a few things that are holding back the Maddys:
1. The adjustment to rail turret damage now puts Maddys at a disadvantage against missile turrets, rail turrets, swarms and forge guns when compared to Gunnlogis.
2. The low CPU cripples the ability of a Maddy to use a proto turret and anything better than standard plates/reps. By comparison, with the Gunni I can usually fit one small turret in addition to a proto turret PLUS an enhanced shield extender. Drop to a standard large turret and I can add on a second small turret and still have CPU/PG to spare. Gunni builds typically have well over 6,000HP with two shield hardeners, whereas a Maddy has to sacrifice quite a bit more to reach similar numbers.
3. The damage bonus offered to Minmatar commandos + the increase to light weapon damage modifiers = a bad time for armor pilots.
The Maddy is in a good place when it comes to missile. It's missile, which is explosive, which has a bonus against armor. I'm not against that at all.
What I didn't like at all was changing the rail damage profile to do more against armor. There's increasingly fewer and fewer reasons to use the Maddy; only upside is being able to use a scanner and NOS without eating into the armor tank. Yeah, it's difficult to fit a neutron blaster, but it helps if you have the fitting skill to at least 3.
What is kinda bad is that there's only one thing that gets a bonus against shield, and that's the plasma cannon. I feel the blaster should be the middle ground as far as vehicle turrets go. Not great against shield or armor, but good enough to put up a fight. Missile obviously nukes armor, and rail should be better against shield, not armor.
As I said, there's little reason to use a Maddy, other than for turret depression and using a NOS without eating away the tank. I'd love to know the reasoning behind having the rail do even more damage to armor.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2014.11.01 06:42:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:your not using a tank to survive swarms,
your using a tank to be completely 100% invulnerarble to all non av infantry.
swarms are supposed to own you in the same way you own infantry.
its called balance.
So what would you suggest, that an AR become a legitimate AV weapon?
I remember destroying a LAV in the beta with a shotgun. I wasn't amused by it, I was appalled by it, that an infantry weapon was viable against a LAV.
Rifles, SMGs, and shotguns and the like should do zero damage to vehicles. There's no reason they should do anything to them at all.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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