DUST Search - I'm torn and just don't know what to do .

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

I'm Caldari and would love to play as nothing but my race but some of their bonuses are just flat out useless , the Sentinel and the Logistic to name a few but these are the roles that I play .

I can live with the Cal Commando because it's my favorite suit , I can snipe and run rails and swarms on that suit ... yeah it's not like the Min but it still gets the job done and then some .

I'm leaning towards going full Amarr and I just wouldn't feel right in doing so but I had fun playing with a Amarr alt that I made a while ago but I'm trying to be loyal and represent my race .

I just don't know what to do .

If the Cal Sent had a better bonus like laser and projectile shield resistance and the Cal Logi had anything but nanohives ( I don't use them unless I snipe ( Cal Commando ) or swarm , which I use a Min Commando for so that's practically useless to me ) it would work for me but I like the attributes of the Min Logi better .

I just get tired of cross specking and having skill points everywhere , I'm trying to build myself and make the most of what I have and get the most out of what I use as well .

I might just say " screw it " and just go full Amarr but I know I will feel wrong in doing so .

It would be nice if the Caldari had better bonuses , the only ones that are good are the scout ( I don't scout ) and the Commando , every other bonus to the other suits just leave them wanting and underperforming IMO .

1.9 is going to be great but it's just leaving me torn .

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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1319	Posted - 2014.10.30 23:34:00 - [1] - Quote I'm Caldari and would love to play as nothing but my race but some of their bonuses are just flat out useless , the Sentinel and the Logistic to name a few but these are the roles that I play . I can live with the Cal Commando because it's my favorite suit , I can snipe and run rails and swarms on that suit ... yeah it's not like the Min but it still gets the job done and then some . I'm leaning towards going full Amarr and I just wouldn't feel right in doing so but I had fun playing with a Amarr alt that I made a while ago but I'm trying to be loyal and represent my race . I just don't know what to do . If the Cal Sent had a better bonus like laser and projectile shield resistance and the Cal Logi had anything but nanohives ( I don't use them unless I snipe ( Cal Commando ) or swarm , which I use a Min Commando for so that's practically useless to me ) it would work for me but I like the attributes of the Min Logi better . I just get tired of cross specking and having skill points everywhere , I'm trying to build myself and make the most of what I have and get the most out of what I use as well . I might just say " screw it " and just go full Amarr but I know I will feel wrong in doing so . It would be nice if the Caldari had better bonuses , the only ones that are good are the scout ( I don't scout ) and the Commando , every other bonus to the other suits just leave them wanting and underperforming IMO . 1.9 is going to be great but it's just leaving me torn . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13991	Posted - 2014.10.30 23:37:00 - [2] - Quote All that matters when being Amarrian is whether or not you accept the Faith. Do you accept the Faith? GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2304	Posted - 2014.10.30 23:39:00 - [3] - Quote come to the Winmatar side of life our suits are metagame proof Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4150	Posted - 2014.10.30 23:40:00 - [4] - Quote Useful Caldari Bonuses: Commando (they all have useful bonuses) Sentinel (Resistance against all shield weapons to your shields) Logistics (dem nanites) Scout (Scan Range is pretty useful) Useless Caldari Bonuses: Assault (Commando Blanket Bonus on weapons that require the Gallente Bonus [Reduction to Kick])
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1319	Posted - 2014.10.30 23:41:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: All that matters when being Amarrian is whether or not you accept the Faith. Do you accept the Faith? I knew that question would come up , that's why it wouldn't feel right . I guess you would label me a heretic . No offense . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1319	Posted - 2014.10.30 23:42:00 - [6] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: come to the Winmatar side of life our suits are metagame proof IKR . Edit : Don't think that didn't cross my mind , I have Min Logistic , Commando and Assault already . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1319	Posted - 2014.10.30 23:49:00 - [7] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Useful Caldari Bonuses: Commando (they all have useful bonuses) Sentinel (Resistance against all shield weapons to your shields) Logistics (dem nanites) Scout (Scan Range is pretty useful) Useless Caldari Bonuses: Assault (Commando Blanket Bonus on weapons that require the Gallente Bonus [Reduction to Kick]) I was wondering because I don't see too many Cal Logi's and how important would nanohives be , just don't see them or the need too much but maybe that's me and how I play . I would rather have a rep tool and needles , instead of laying equipment that would get destroyed from moving from one battle scene to another or just underappreciated . I guess I just don't like that bonus . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Kensai Dragon Dust University Ivy League 25	Posted - 2014.10.30 23:53:00 - [8] - Quote Amarr is your 'racial ally', so you should be fine there. Just worship the Empress instead of your CEO, lol Otherwise, become a 'true merc' and just mix it all up! A mercs only true loyalty belongs to ISK, which follows the highest bidder.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1319	Posted - 2014.10.30 23:56:00 - [9] - Quote Kensai Dragon wrote: Amarr is your 'racial ally', so you should be fine there. Just worship the Empress instead of your CEO, lol Otherwise, become a 'true merc' and just mix it all up! A mercs only true loyalty belongs to ISK, which follows the highest bidder. That makes sense but I just get tired of cross specking but I might just play with the races and roles that I feel would complete my game but I would love to go full racial and just represent my race . You do have a point though , if it ain't broke .. don't fix it . Edit : I started out as a Minmatar so I can associate with them more then any other , I just like the business aspect of being Caldari . Those suits while meeting with the board are killer . Just make me look so handsome . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2257	Posted - 2014.10.31 00:05:00 - [10] - Quote slaps Shinobi The HELL is the matter with you?! You are Caldari! Act like one! If someone makes a better wine, we drink it! If someone makes a better gun, we shoot it! If someone makes a better dropsuit, we use it! It is okay that we do this because they don't make better soldiers. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"

Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 796	Posted - 2014.10.31 00:14:00 - [11] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: slaps Shinobi The HELL is the matter with you?! You are Caldari! Act like one! If someone makes a better wine, we drink it! If someone makes a better gun, we shoot it! If someone makes a better dropsuit, we use it! It is okay that we do this because they don't make better soldiers. You should only buy domestic goods if you want to be a true Caldari patriot. Our economy is geared for war. Support Caldari corporations so that we may become stronger as a State and crush those that oppose us. GLORY TO THE STATE
Lloyd Orfay Commando Perkone Caldari State 144	Posted - 2014.10.31 00:30:00 - [12] - Quote You don't get my remorse for sniping with your calmando, but logistics and sentinel caldari skills aren't useless at all. Cal logistics and sentinel suit skills have practicality, just caldari logistics slot layout and the bad suit regeneration + unnecessary speed slowdown bring its performace down superbly. Caldari sentinels can survive the overpowered breach plasma rifles alongside laser rifles, and a well built cal sentinel can easily survive rails and combat rifles. Caldari logistics at high levels can farm major wp points using triage nanohives, so not useless at all. If anything the caldari assault and scout have the worst bonuses, because they're impractical. Caldari scouts have to rely on speed and super regeneration to survive, and gallente and amarr bonuses beat caldari down to nothing because they can easily find caldari scouts + armour is more reliable. Caldari assault bonus doesn't improve rail weapon performance in any solid way compared to how amarr and minmatar assault skills do. Caldari scouts especially had their age old precision bonus changed to scanner radius some time ago, which was illogical, as scanner radius barely has practicality(because 10-15 metres is absolutely nothing an infantry unit could use to truly survive compared to how if people were careful they could lurk in areas and use precision bonus to find other scouts) most unrightful change there was, as it ruined the caldari player population and that was pretty much one of the only reasons why caldari players were in bigger numbers. Don't limit yourself to caldari, even if you love the race, because of the bad shield regen in a wide majority of suits + the damage profiles of weapons(especially hybrid ones, which have damage profiles that allow for almost indiscriminate high damage towards both shields and armour) I'd go gallente as they are the ones to specialise in armour regen, making being assaulted by the popular hybrid weapons a bit less easier. People that can't achieve greatness without exploitation don't deserve to exist. Enroll in scout erradication today.
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 26	Posted - 2014.10.31 00:31:00 - [13] - Quote I cannot wear Ammar, because my balls don't fit. I don't wear Gallente, because my balls are not on my forehead. I don't wear minmatar, because it creates an urge to bark at the moon.
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 570	Posted - 2014.10.31 00:49:00 - [14] - Quote I'm wondering what part of mercenary people still don't get. Faction loyalty means nothing in DUST. That is what EVE is for. Go with the highest bidder, best equipment for you. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2304	Posted - 2014.10.31 00:52:00 - [15] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: I'm wondering what part of mercenary people still don't get. Faction loyalty means nothing in DUST. That is what EVE is for. Go with the highest bidder, best equipment for you. becuase some mercs are supersticious i ONLY trust in rust Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 652	Posted - 2014.10.31 01:49:00 - [16] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: I'm Caldari and would love to play as nothing but my race but some of their bonuses are just flat out useless , the Sentinel and the Logistic to name a few but these are the roles that I play . I can live with the Cal Commando because it's my favorite suit , I can snipe and run rails and swarms on that suit ... yeah it's not like the Min but it still gets the job done and then some . I'm leaning towards going full Amarr and I just wouldn't feel right in doing so but I had fun playing with a Amarr alt that I made a while ago but I'm trying to be loyal and represent my race . I just don't know what to do . If the Cal Sent had a better bonus like laser and projectile shield resistance and the Cal Logi had anything but nanohives ( I don't use them unless I snipe ( Cal Commando ) or swarm , which I use a Min Commando for so that's practically useless to me ) it would work for me but I like the attributes of the Min Logi better . I just get tired of cross specking and having skill points everywhere , I'm trying to build myself and make the most of what I have and get the most out of what I use as well . I might just say " screw it " and just go full Amarr but I know I will feel wrong in doing so . It would be nice if the Caldari had better bonuses , the only ones that are good are the scout ( I don't scout ) and the Commando , every other bonus to the other suits just leave them wanting and underperforming IMO . 1.9 is going to be great but it's just leaving me torn . These decisions matter not anymore. Skill up. If you don't like it, press the respec button. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13993	Posted - 2014.10.31 01:53:00 - [17] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: I'm wondering what part of mercenary people still don't get. Faction loyalty means nothing in DUST. That is what EVE is for. Go with the highest bidder, best equipment for you. Faction Loyalty means as much as you yourself value it. GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko
Reign Omega Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 969	Posted - 2014.10.31 02:06:00 - [18] - Quote Cal logi is honestly a take it or leave it bonus. At max the rep/resupply bonus is nice in a pinch but you rarely notice it and nanohives pop fast regardless. I'm actually skilling back into amarr logi on my cal alt. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1319	Posted - 2014.10.31 04:47:00 - [19] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: slaps Shinobi The HELL is the matter with you?! You are Caldari! Act like one! If someone makes a better wine, we drink it! If someone makes a better gun, we shoot it! If someone makes a better dropsuit, we use it! It is okay that we do this because they don't make better soldiers. You should only buy domestic goods if you want to be a true Caldari patriot. Our economy is geared for war. Support Caldari corporations so that we may become stronger as a State and crush those that oppose us. I wish FW was that way , sorry I didn't get back to all of you sooner .. I was playing Dust and watching " The Mighty Jingles " on The World Of Tanks and War Thunder , I just like his perspectives on those games . I really appreciate all of the suggestions and advice that all of you give . Like I said , it's just a hard decision to make and I feel like going the route of multiple suits that perform in a way that highlight my strengths .. so I might just continue to cross speck , as much as I'm going to hate to . I would love to play full racial Caldari but it's just not practical . I like Amarr and Gal Sentinels . I like Min Logi , Commandos and Assaults . I don't scout so that's not a problem but I had fun playing with Amarr Assaults . I might just listen to all of you and just mix it up . Joseph mad me laugh my @$$ off though with his comment . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9051	Posted - 2014.10.31 05:55:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: I'm wondering what part of mercenary people still don't get. Faction loyalty means nothing in DUST. That is what EVE is for. Go with the highest bidder, best equipment for you. Faction Loyalty means as much as you yourself value it. Absolutely. I'm wondering when "play however you want" became "you must play our way of the mercenary. " To the OP, I'm honestly learning to flat out ignore all bonuses. Pick my suit based on loyalty and slot availability. If I use those slots towards something that gets a bonus then it is just that, a bonus. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support

Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1785	Posted - 2014.10.31 06:46:00 - [21] - Quote Well, 1.9 and buyable respec is coming, so why not try it out. Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
DarthPlagueis TheWise 189	Posted - 2014.10.31 06:49:00 - [22] - Quote implying that a shield resistance to shotguns is not a useful skill implying that caldari sentinels are useless bro... armor based sentinels WISH they had enough SP and patience to do what you are doing. suck it up and adapt. there are plenty of ways to wreck face with Cal Sent. some of the best players in the game use that suit Dust? No, this is AUR514 now.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1484	Posted - 2014.10.31 07:57:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: All that matters when being Amarrian is whether or not you accept the Faith. Do you accept the Faith? "Faith and Gold!" "For the Empress!" xD lol zelots are soo funny [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4247	Posted - 2014.10.31 09:04:00 - [24] - Quote OP what are you smoking and where can I get some? The goddamn calsent is AMAZING. At level 5 it's obnoxiously effective and atands up well in firefights. And you get to murder all the amaarr who are laser happy. What's not to love here? Useless bonuses my ass. Just shield tank the everliving sh*t out of it. Don't waste fitting space on damage mods. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 717	Posted - 2014.10.31 09:38:00 - [25] - Quote First world problems. The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1324	Posted - 2014.10.31 09:55:00 - [26] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: OP what are you smoking and where can I get some? The goddamn calsent is AMAZING. At level 5 it's obnoxiously effective and atands up well in firefights. And you get to murder all the amaarr who are laser happy. What's not to love here? Useless bonuses my ass. Just shield tank the everliving sht out of it. Don't waste fitting space on damage mods. I don't know about that , most of the heavy hitters have their HMG's maxed out and use pro damage mods , it just seems to me that shields are weak .. yes they have that recharge time and all but I get two swiped with NK's and Two shotted with SG's when I use that , I thought that NK ( other then on a Min ) wouldn't be that effective against that suit with plasma resistance and all but I just die too fast in that suit . People just started to pick up the plasma rifle and now I'm starting to see more players use lasers but most use RR's and CR's but maybe after 1.9 that will change but against a Amarr and Gal Sent that suit doesn't stand a chance for the most part . I have to use damage mods and I use chargers as well as reactive plates , it just seem that HMG's knock the shields down fast as well as shotgun blasts and as a heavy , that's what most face . Besides CR's and RR's . You might be able to out DPS most but if you don't last long enough to administer that DPS , what good is it and you can't run for cover because most heavies when they see a Cal sent they charge ahead and if your facing two or three your screwed , in a Gal sent I've faced and beat two sents before and killed up to five in a row before , just don't think that's happening in a Cal sent . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .*
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1324	Posted - 2014.10.31 09:56:00 - [27] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: True Adamance wrote: All that matters when being Amarrian is whether or not you accept the Faith. Do you accept the Faith? "Faith and Gold!" "For the Empress!" xD lol zelots are soo funny But you gotta love the enthusiasm . I'm all for freeing the downtrodden . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1324	Posted - 2014.10.31 10:00:00 - [28] - Quote DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: implying that a shield resistance to shotguns is not a useful skill implying that caldari sentinels are useless bro... armor based sentinels WISH they had enough SP and patience to do what you are doing. suck it up and adapt. there are plenty of ways to wreck face with Cal Sent. some of the best players in the game use that suit I wanna believe that but most of the sents that I see wreaking use either Amarr or Gal , I use to see Cal's but not too much anymore besides forging , I guess that's " working as intended " . Maybe it's because I didn't have that suit at pro and just adv , that could be the problem .?. or it could be that while using that suit with a HMG , you better have back up ... like two or three heavies with you with a Logi . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1324	Posted - 2014.10.31 10:08:00 - [29] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: These decisions matter not anymore. Skill up. If you don't like it, press the respec button. That's what I'm trying to avoid , I think that most who do use that option will use it as such and not like a " bail out " but it's something that's good to have . I just don't believe that you will see too many who use that more then twice and while it's something that nice to know that one can do , it won't be done much by most . Most wanted to have that to fix problems and mistakes , not to keep making mistakes just because you understand that's something that can be done now . Plus with the ISK hit I just can't see too many doing that more then twice but I could be wrong , it's been known to happen . It's kinda funny but with this option I think that most will be more cautious not to keep going back to the respec button . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1324	Posted - 2014.10.31 10:10:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: I'm wondering what part of mercenary people still don't get. Faction loyalty means nothing in DUST. That is what EVE is for. Go with the highest bidder, best equipment for you. Faction Loyalty means as much as you yourself value it. IKR , most in Cal FW are part timers and team killers . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .



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