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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:26:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Your Clone doesn't technically belong to you... It belongs to the team as a whole.
You didn't build that clone, someone else built it for you.
Actually, my game belongs to me. If I don't want to get revived in the middle of a firefight knowing the hmg is still firing right in front of me, I now have the ability to make that choice.
Quote:This will hurt ....clutch games that come down to clone counts(Skirm,Dom). This is actually a good point. But it can be easily corrected by good players knowing when it's most prudent to request a revive, especially in ambush.
AKA - StarVenger
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
383
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:38:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Lots of people here love their KDRs, right? So suppose you don't get a death counted against your KDR until you are terminated? This would have people wanting to be revived because it wouldn't hurt their KDRs. This is a thing I've been asking for for a long time.
I understand why you would think this way, but I disagree.
If you get put down, you got killed, no two ways about it.
Guy who shot you earned a K, you unfortunately earned a D.
Just because you can be revived doesn't mean you can un-ring that bell.
AKA - StarVenger
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
383
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:47:00 -
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KDR is a meta stat.
Revive is in game lore.
The two are wholey separate.
AKA - StarVenger
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
383
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:57:00 -
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Example:
You and a red get into a 1v1.
He beats you and has earned a K.
You have lost and have earned a D.
He leaves area and 10 seconds later logibro happens upon you and stabs you.
Do you erase that D? Did you really survive that fight?
AKA - StarVenger
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.29 23:38:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Yes you survived that fight....
OK, one more try.
Yes, your clone survived.
But you as A PLAYER got BEAT.
KDR does NOT measure clone death.
IT MEASURES PLAYER LOSS. It is a meta stat. You get put down, you got beat by another player, you get a D.
K measures how many times you beat another player.
D measures how many times other players beat you.
Getting beat means another player reduced your clone to zero hp putting you down for the count. Your dead.
Getting revived means another player came along to play mommy for you and bailed your ass out.
You may get picked up, save your team a clone, and help push back the enemy; these are all good things. But you can never take back the fact you went down; that the other player got one over on you.
Believe me I sympathize with your viewpoint. I often argued to myself when I got picked up that I should be spared the D. That way my KDR would be all fluffy bunny pretty with rainbow stickers on it. But then I realized why try and fool myself, it wouldn't be the truth. Truth is a D is a D.
AKA - StarVenger
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