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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.25 11:10:00 -
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Relative to the rest of the ARs, the breach variant is overperforming - particularly when compared to the base assault variant.
Here's a comparison of the CreoDron Breach and the Duvolle:
Breach:
456.7 DPS
2300 damage per clip
5 second firing time per clip
Tighter hipfire cone
Assault:
453.2 DPS
2040 damage per clip
4.5 second firing time per clip
Wider hipfire cone
Both have equal ranges, equal damage profiles, etc, so these are the main differences.
The problem is that they're not actually that different. The breach is flat out superior to the assault variant. Other than the major hipfire advantage the advantages it has are slight but they -are- advantages and as a result the breach is becoming noticeably more popular than the standard variant.
I have a proposal - reduce the clip size on the breach AR. That way, the assault variant is better suited to drawn out assaults than the breach and there is a reason to pick either one, instead of defaulting to one.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.25 12:44:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The Breach is the only one in the Gallente family that is close to the rest of the Rail/Combat and Scramblers. Even the burst AR, which I think is incredible, I use it a lot now, is just not picking up stats wise on the battleground. Even the TAR isn't that great, but that one is actually picking up but not really competitive.
Burst AR is amazing and I <3 it a lot. I started using it after you sang its praises on the forums as well.
So... Really?
The breach remains superior to the base assault variant, even if the class as a whole is underperforming. If all plasma rifles are a concern, what if the assault had an increased clip size or something to give it an advantage over the breach?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.25 15:28:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:This is the biggest Gallente circle jerk I've ever seen.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.25 15:52:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:This is the biggest Gallente circle jerk I've ever seen. Kirk suggested giving the TacAR more range than the ScR. When you guys are left unchecked, you just want GallenteOPness.
That was why I opened this thread by suggesting a breach AR nerf, right?
It's only because Rattati has stated that the AR is underperforming statistically that this changed into a buff proposal.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.25 16:15:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:
don't make me laugh. This game has been Ar 514 from closed beta until 1.7.
The AR was also the only rifle for the majority of that time. 
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.25 16:55:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Personally I feel the breach PR should get a range increase and DPS decrease. Breach weapons are based off of the RR, which is low DPS high range. The Breach AR should mimic that.
Also a decent suggestion.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.25 19:00:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
Burst AR is amazing and I <3 it a lot. I started using it after you sang its praises on the forums as well.
So... Really?
The breach remains superior to the base assault variant, even if the class as a whole is underperforming. If all plasma rifles are a concern, what if the assault had an increased clip size or something to give it an advantage over the breach?
It's a freaking scary weapon and I armor tank. I played some Cal FW against Arkena. Any time I saw them I just ran. Got Grease a couple times though, and they were running the CreoDron as well and had more armor. Arkena is just scary to begin with
I remember that match. 
Funnily enough, it was a breach AR that killed me the most then.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.27 08:58:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:After my revisit to the BAR it seems much better than the AR my accuracy is better or there was a ninja buff? I also played with the burst and will till I run out the it is pretty powerful, but if you miss one it the delay will kill you.
The breach is essentially a direct upgrade to the AR.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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