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iWanderer
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Posted - 2014.10.24 20:59:00 -
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Just to be clear, every suit gets passive reps, ok
Gallente gets better reps than other races, ok.
I just don-¦t understand why the basic Gallente suits are getting better reps than Gallente racial suits...
Example:
Gallente basic heavy - 2,5 rep/s
Gallente racial sentinel - 2 rep/s - less than basic suit
Gallente basic medium - 3 rep/s
Gallente racial assault - 2,5rep/s - less than basic suit
Gallente basic light - 2 rep/s
Gallente racial scout - 1,5 rep/s - less than basic suit
It-¦s Gallente, the armor race! If the basics are better why specialize? And how about who may have invested into Gallente..
Not even to go into the other racial suits, because Gallente ir armor, but it looks kind of the same logic, or am I missing something?
Another thing, please explain why the logi suit gets better reps than an assault suit? Assault is assault, kind of a small commando. It should do less then the commando, not worse than a logi...
Just another example maybe better to explain my point:
Minmatar basic light 1,5 reps,
Amarr basic light 1,5 reps
Gallente Racial Scout 1,5 reps ,
get the point? I didn-¦t...
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iWanderer
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Posted - 2014.10.25 07:32:00 -
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Cyrus Grevare wrote:Oh man, I hadn't noticed that basic frames are better or equal at repping  how I hope this will get rebalanced before deployment 
And deployment is planned for tuesday.
But really, BASIC frames with BETTER reps than RACIAL?!!
I have had time to look it over and it seems that ALL racial suits lack reps compared do respective basic.
CCP Rattati, look this over in a better view or at least explain the logic behind it.
No other basic ou racial should have better reps than Gallente racial.
I really think this should be looked at before deployment, just because, I honestly can not see the "Balance" |
iWanderer
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Posted - 2014.10.25 08:39:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Newbies need something other than "sucks to be you."
Armor rep is a start.
And the change benefits shield suits more than it will ever benefit gallente or amarr. Means I can pull the reps off my cal/min suits.
That I agree, its good for newbies because every suit has native shield regen.
And I agree it serves better non Gallente suits, but ok, everybody gets native armor rep like shields, fine, and Gallente get more.
But I state it again so you can see the "balance problem":
Minmatar basic light 1,5 reps
Amarr basic light 1,5 reps
Gallente Racial Scout 1,5 reps
In a sort of way, this is nerfing the Gallente class....except commandos, but then again Gallente commando has only slightly better reps then other commandos... |
iWanderer
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Posted - 2014.10.25 09:30:00 -
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Here a small lookup I made:
Shield recharge
Light Suits: ............................. Scout Suits:
Basic Cal - 50.....................................Cal - 50
Basic Amarr - 30................................Amarr - 30
Basic Min - 40.....................................Min - 40
Basic Gal - 40.................................... Gal - 30
All the same except Gal light and Scout - should be fixed!!
Medium Suits:................................... Assault Suits:
Basic Cal - 30........................................ Cal - 30
Basic Amarr - 20 ...................................Amarr - 20
Basic Min - 25 ....................................... Min - 25
Basic Gal - 20........................................ Gal - 20
All the same.
Heavy Suits: .....................................Sentinel Suits:
Basic Cal - 30 .....................................Cal - 30
Basic Amarr - 15.................................Amarr - 15
Basic Min - 20..................................... Min - 20
Basic Gal 15 .......................................Gal - 15
All the same, note Gallente have half the shield regen then Caldari. Could be rebalanced...
Proposed Armor
Light Suits: ............................. Scout Suits:
Basic Cal - 0,5.....................................Cal - 1
Basic Amarr - 1................................Amarr - 1,5
Basic Min - 1.....................................Min - 1,5
Basic Gal - 2.................................... Gal - 2,5
All the same except Gal light and Scout
Medium Suits:................................... Assault Suits:
Basic Cal - 1,5........................................ Cal - 2
Basic Amarr - 2 ...................................Amarr - 2,5
Basic Min - 2 ....................................... Min - 2,5
Basic Gal - 3........................................ Gal - 3,5
All the same.
Heavy Suits: .....................................Sentinel Suits:
Basic Cal - 1 .....................................Cal - 1,5
Basic Amarr - 1,5.................................Amarr - 2
Basic Min - 1,5..................................... Min - 2
Basic Gal 2,5 .......................................Gal - 3
Commandos:
Gal - Min - Amarr - Cal - should be 3,5 - 2,5 - 2,5 - 2
Logis - Same as assault or I think better, use basic medium values if to make then tougher, but then do we want killer logis?
Hope I didn-¦t get anything wrong. Please comment on any error in this logical approach. Balanced??
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iWanderer
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Posted - 2014.10.25 17:32:00 -
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When I referred to killer logis, it was a question. I have not played a lot of logi so others may have a better input on that.
If you notice, I actually proposed new values for logis using medium basic suit values or assault racial suit values, which does not differ from initially proposed, so no big problem. Give logis the medium frame values, just slightly less than commandos.
What of the rest of the proposal? |
iWanderer
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Posted - 2014.10.26 17:50:00 -
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Check my other post, since there are now 3 threads on armor repping.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2420311#post2420311
In this post is another way to look ate the problem that is total hp and respective shield reacharge, then you can balance the armor rep.
I proposed CCP Rattati take a look. |
iWanderer
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Posted - 2014.10.27 07:34:00 -
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For Rattati
Here is my spreadsheet with the so called Beta value to better understand my point.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByLpG42z7QGHWlhGdVh1T3NCVE0/view?usp=sharing
for better information see post:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2420311#post2420311
P.S - When downloading, some formulas may change, please take notice and check with original. |
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