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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.23 13:36:00 -
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Not amused about Gal losing the one unique attribute we had.
Amarr have large stamina pools, Minmatar moderate stamina pools with super quick recharge and high speed, Caldari low delays and fast recharge.
Gallente? The Amarr can honestly mimic any Gallente fit without much effort.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.23 17:12:00 -
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Dingleburt Bangledack wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Not amused about Gal losing the one unique attribute we had.
Amarr have large stamina pools, Minmatar moderate stamina pools with super quick recharge and high speed, Caldari low delays and fast recharge.
Gallente? The Amarr can honestly mimic any Gallente fit without much effort. I wouldn't mind so much if the Gal's native reps were higher by more than a negligible amount. ...But 0.5? Ya, that'll make all the difference. 
The thing is that even if it was small, it was still unique.
Any other race had to fit repairers for even 1hp/s.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.24 06:28:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Savage Mangler wrote:Yeah....increase gallente armor reps across the board. It's their schtick, let them be the best at it. No point in giving their gimmick to everyone else and them not being compensated for it. Yeah am I'm all for having Gallente be great and repairing. It is their thing I guess. But I just don't agree with being handed passive reps. In my mind it reduces the value of your module slots by giving your suit a capability you did not fit for and as a player I find there to be no reason to be handed this for doing absolutely nothing to deserve it.
Then what about the inherent extra armor HP and stamina the Amarr get?
What about the increased speed, stamina and stamina regen the Minmatar get?
What about the low delays and high recharge rate the Caldari get?
Every suit has an inherent bonus one way or the other, the Gallente are now the only plain jane suit.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.24 06:30:00 -
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Savage Mangler wrote:True Adamance wrote:Savage Mangler wrote:Yeah....increase gallente armor reps across the board. It's their schtick, let them be the best at it. No point in giving their gimmick to everyone else and them not being compensated for it. Yeah am I'm all for having Gallente be great and repairing. It is their thing I guess. But I just don't agree with being handed passive reps. In my mind it reduces the value of your module slots by giving your suit a capability you did not fit for and as a player I find there to be no reason to be handed this for doing absolutely nothing to deserve it. I hear ya, the bonuses they're suggesting are not far enough to differentiate between Amarr and Gallente, especially where commandos are concerned. I almost want to say they should take a low slot and give a high slot for Amarr 'Mandos so they are more inclined towards a "stand and deliver" approach in contrast to "rough and tumble brawler" I feel Gallente should have. I have both and it's hard to pick one over the other when my fits are near identical as far as modules go. What's your opinion True?
Except to be a "rough and tubmle brawler" I am using one of my low slots for a kin cat.
Take even one low slot away and I'll never touch my commando again.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.24 06:37:00 -
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Look at it this way, if you just look at the plain suit, not the bonuses or the modules, I would say the Gallente one is the most uninteresting and has nothing going for it.
The Caldari is practically a carbon copy with swapped shields and armor, but with 2.5x the recharge time and 1/2 the delays.
For what? An extra 1hp/s on armor?
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.24 10:17:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Look at it this way, if you just look at the plain suit, not the bonuses or the modules, I would say the Gallente one is the most uninteresting and has nothing going for it.
The Caldari is practically a carbon copy with swapped shields and armor, but with 2.5x the recharge time and 1/2 the delays.
For what? An extra 1hp/s on armor? Yeah, lets just ignore the inherent benefits to armor tanking, having free highs and having large numbers of low slots.
"Inherent benefits to armor tanking"
I'm sorry, could you please explain those benefits to me?
Because with all the shield buffs lately, I kind of lost track of any.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.27 12:33:00 -
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And now the Assault Rail Rifle has more damage per clip than the Duvolle, an extra 27 meters at 30 less DPS and 0.3 charge up time.
Gotta see how that plays out, honestly feel like the Duvolle will lose on some popularity.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.27 16:34:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:/me actually supports ARR buff while also being a Gallente supporter.
These things are not mutually exclusive.
Oh I support an ARR buff, I'm just wondering if the clip was increased too much or if the damage buff was even needed.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.27 16:37:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Not amused about Gal losing the one unique attribute we had.
Amarr have large stamina pools, Minmatar moderate stamina pools with super quick recharge and high speed, Caldari low delays and fast recharge.
Gallente? The Amarr can honestly mimic any Gallente fit without much effort. How are they losing it? They're not removing it.
Nobody had ANY armor rep, at all.
Only the Gallente had it.
This meant that anyone who wanted any reps at all needed to use up a slot.
While for Amarr and Gallente this is a no brainer, for shield suits it's a bigger choice.
Now that choice doesn't need to be made, and my Caldari Assault fit just had its one weakness that was bugging me removed.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:20:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:/me actually supports ARR buff while also being a Gallente supporter.
These things are not mutually exclusive. Oh I support an ARR buff, I'm just wondering if the clip was increased too much or if the damage buff was even needed. 42 damage at 600 ROF gives 420 DPS, compared to PR's 453 DPS. Gallente still win in the DPS race handily. The only thing I worry about is the range not being changed alongside the DPS increase.
It's not the DPS itself that is the problem, but rather the DPS/Range ratio.
If the range was reduced then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
Nobody had ANY armor rep, at all.
Only the Gallente had it.
This meant that anyone who wanted any reps at all needed to use up a slot.
While for Amarr and Gallente this is a no brainer, for shield suits it's a bigger choice.
Now that choice doesn't need to be made, and my Caldari Assault fit just had its one weakness that was bugging me removed.
It was basically a matter of have it, or don't have it, which is a much, much bigger deal than an extra 0.5hp/s that most armor tankers can't give a fuck about.
Trust me, you could take that rep from my Gal Assault and I would feel no difference in battle.
Actually, Minmatar Assaults had a native 1HP/s.  Though honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. Your HP/s will still be higher than everyone else, and honestly no suits have an advantage that's truly a "big deal". For instance:
- Amarr excel at High eHP, yet it only has a 30HP/s difference from Gallente.
- Caldari excel at superior shielding, yet it only has a 5HP/s and 20HP difference from Matari.
- Matari excel at superior movement, yet it only has a .3m/s Walk and .27m/s Sprint Speed increase from Caldari.
I will be honest and admit however, that the Matari's +30 Stamina Regen is a clear advantage. However, unless you're stacking MyroFibs it won't help you at all in combat, as opposed to the other "advantages" which slightly help.
I would trade 30HP for 0.5hp/s any day.
Caldari have 30hp/s higher shield recharge and half the delays of a Gallente suit. Gallente get an extra 1-2hp/s.
.3m/s walk and .27m/s sprint is absolutely nothing to be snuffed at, and you're a fool if you discount it.
You're also a fool if you think the stamina regen speed isn't an advantage in combat.
Lack of stamina has killed me a LOT of times, I am a mobile CQC fighter, I need it.
Not to mention that even if it didn't help in combat, it's still a useful thing to have overall, adding to the suit's utility.
Oh and Matari have a small hacking bonus.
It's not large, but it's still a thing.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.10.28 11:32:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:/me actually supports ARR buff while also being a Gallente supporter.
These things are not mutually exclusive. Oh I support an ARR buff, I'm just wondering if the clip was increased too much or if the damage buff was even needed. 3 points of dps over the RR? thats not even justifiable, the ARR need the dps and clip size buff because it wasnt even close to assault variant characteristics
Now compare it to Duvolle stats, that's supposed to be a "benchmark" for Assault variants.
It's there where I feel the ARR will be too powerful, not RR vs ARR.
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