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Sequal Rise wrote:

DeathwindRising wrote:

Alena Ventrallis wrote:

Rattati, so happy to see the ARR changes implemented! Just a few more points I'd like to add.

1. If range is unchanged (71m) to something lower as suggested, I fear people will simply migrate from RR to ARR, especially with the buff its getting. I would ask that range be reduced alongside the changes listed. I don't want it to become the next FOTM and have people call for it to be nerfed into the ground.

2. I would also keep the current hipfire kick for the ARR and not increase it. It already has substantially more kick than the other assault variants already.

3. Reserve ammo increased, although I am sure this is to be assumed that its increased along with magazine size.

range is fine. without the scope youll have trouble accurately hitting anything at that range.

That's why it's not useful to keep it that way. I think reducing its range from 71 to 60-62m would be enough. People will complain about it if its not reduced.. better do it now!


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Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1988	Posted - 2014.10.23 20:58:00 - [1] - Quote If we're going to nerf Rail Rifles CQC ability (which frankly I disagree with) can we get the ARR to perform better in CQC than it does now then? Caldari need some sort of option if the fight gets in close. Mercs whine about the rail rifle but refuse to shield tank to counter it. But that's none of my business.
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound 2032	Posted - 2014.10.27 08:07:00 - [2] - Quote Rattati, so happy to see the ARR changes implemented! Just a few more points I'd like to add. 1. If range is unchanged (71m) to something lower as suggested, I fear people will simply migrate from RR to ARR, especially with the buff its getting. I would ask that range be reduced alongside the changes listed. I don't want it to become the next FOTM and have people call for it to be nerfed into the ground. 2. I would also keep the current hipfire kick for the ARR and not increase it. It already has substantially more kick than the other assault variants already. 3. Reserve ammo increased, although I am sure this is to be assumed that its increased along with magazine size. Proof that Rattati/CCP do listen to the playerbase.
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound 2034	Posted - 2014.10.27 09:04:00 - [3] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: DeathwindRising wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Rattati, so happy to see the ARR changes implemented! Just a few more points I'd like to add. 1. If range is unchanged (71m) to something lower as suggested, I fear people will simply migrate from RR to ARR, especially with the buff its getting. I would ask that range be reduced alongside the changes listed. I don't want it to become the next FOTM and have people call for it to be nerfed into the ground. 2. I would also keep the current hipfire kick for the ARR and not increase it. It already has substantially more kick than the other assault variants already. 3. Reserve ammo increased, although I am sure this is to be assumed that its increased along with magazine size. range is fine. without the scope youll have trouble accurately hitting anything at that range. That's why it's not useful to keep it that way. I think reducing its range from 71 to 60-62m would be enough. People will complain about it if its not reduced.. better do it now! 55-60m is the sweet spot. As long as it has the highest range of the assault variants, and the lowest DPS of the assault variants. But definitely lower than the base RR range. Proof that Rattati/CCP do listen to the playerbase.
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 2045	Posted - 2014.10.27 16:17:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Cat Merc wrote: And now the Assault Rail Rifle has more damage per clip than the Duvolle, an extra 27 meters at 30 less DPS and 0.3 charge up time. Gotta see how that plays out, honestly feel like the Duvolle will lose on some popularity, unless the charge up is changed to Particle cannon like charge up where only half charging will lock it up. I think youre forgetting the major factor here. CCP has the biggest hard-on for Caldari so naturally they get the better stuff and OP weapons. The vast majority of OP weapons have belonged to the Caldari and CCPs lack of understanding of DPS:Range ratio as well as risk versus reward. This again.... Just saying, if the ARR ends up needing a tweak, range is probably where it'll need to be. Assault variants trade range for DPS. I just don't want to see the ARR become FOTM and then have it nerfed back into uselessness Maybe it won't. Iron sights at 70m may be too unweildy to effectively use. But I don't want the ARR to fall back into obscurity and have Caldari lose their CQC ability. Really glad on the changes being added in for the ARR in the first place though! :D Proof that Rattati/CCP do listen to the playerbase.
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 2047	Posted - 2014.10.27 17:08:00 - [5] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: /me actually supports ARR buff while also being a Gallente supporter. These things are not mutually exclusive. Oh I support an ARR buff, I'm just wondering if the clip was increased too much or if the damage buff was even needed. 42 damage at 600 ROF gives 420 DPS, compared to PR's 453 DPS. Gallente still win in the DPS race handily. The only thing I worry about is the range not being changed alongside the DPS increase. Proof that Rattati/CCP do listen to the playerbase.
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 2050	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:04:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: /me actually supports ARR buff while also being a Gallente supporter. These things are not mutually exclusive. Oh I support an ARR buff, I'm just wondering if the clip was increased too much or if the damage buff was even needed. 42 damage at 600 ROF gives 420 DPS, compared to PR's 453 DPS. Gallente still win in the DPS race handily. The only thing I worry about is the range not being changed alongside the DPS increase. It's not the DPS itself that is the problem, but rather the DPS/Range ratio. If the range was reduced then I wouldn't have a problem with it. In my thread I actually asked for the range decrease as well. I guess we'll see how it plays out, but if its OP I'm pushing for a range cut. Proof that Rattati/CCP do listen to the playerbase.
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 2063	Posted - 2014.10.28 23:00:00 - [7] - Quote ARR needs a hipfire kick reduction, and a range decrease to 60m. Proof that Rattati/CCP do listen to the playerbase.