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Chrome HD BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 34	Posted - 2014.10.20 17:53:00 - [1] - Quote Is getting dampening worth it as a cal scout? or should I go precision?
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 549	Posted - 2014.10.20 17:54:00 - [2] - Quote Both
John ShepardIII Second-Nature 1015	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:16:00 - [3] - Quote You should get range, precision and dampening The True Shepard Lvl 1 Forum Warrior CEO of Second-Nature
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1766	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:31:00 - [4] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: You should get range, precision and dampening +1, all are important in the EWAR race.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1294	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:37:00 - [5] - Quote the race only involved scouts as they are the OP wallhack kings of dust :P [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2012	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:42:00 - [6] - Quote If you are talking about the baseline skills, then yes. You can even go with the "if it is a baseline skill that gives you a blanket buff, you should use it." Engineering and Electronics are much more of the "Fork and Knife" of the steak that is the DUST skill tree, essential, but anything that is a flat bonus and not module efficiency is generally worth skilling up because it is always in effect. Sure, you can get into the fact that it is not always super useful if you are running around as a Heavy or a Tank to have Range, Damp, and Precision maxed but they are still good to have. Same thing with % HP, Sprint Speed/Stamina/Recharge really. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 234	Posted - 2014.10.20 20:33:00 - [7] - Quote All three. Your unscannable to all but the most skilled scanners. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 30.5mil sp -` R.I.P Dust 514
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4902	Posted - 2014.10.20 20:56:00 - [8] - Quote Dampening is most important, as you will easily be killed if you are scanned. Then I would say Range, because that is your bonus, and Precision third. You can always tell a Millford Minja
xavier zor G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 89	Posted - 2014.10.20 22:47:00 - [9] - Quote Chrome HD wrote: Is getting dampening worth it as a cal scout? or should I go precision? Don't dampen...as with the 30% bonus from caldari scout operati0n V and dampening V you dont need to. I run precision with codebreakers to catch any sneaky scouts sneaking up on me on my radar scout ck.0 here!
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 399	Posted - 2014.10.20 22:51:00 - [10] - Quote I have precision and range to 5. Dampening to 4. The PE's are nice to have. Slap on two to scan arrogant scouts who haven't put/skille enough damps on (I've scanned a cloaked Gallente Scout with only one PE before). Range and Scout to 5, and I don't need to fit an Amplifier on the suit. I have been scanned once (no damps fitted, must've been a Proto Gallogi). I've been passively scanned and then ambushed by an ak.0 scout (or maybe he just saw me). Give the Magsex some love.

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1776	Posted - 2014.10.20 23:39:00 - [11] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Dampening is most important, as you will easily be killed if you are scanned. Then I would say Range, because that is your bonus, and Precision third. This is solid advice as well, IMO.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5525	Posted - 2014.10.20 23:51:00 - [12] - Quote I have one proto cal scout suit fit and it has two comp code breakers in its low slots. it my speed hack fit only thing it is good for. EVE 21 Day Trial Templar BPOs EVE 2nd decade CE items
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2049	Posted - 2014.10.21 02:30:00 - [13] - Quote If you are at all serious about going into the scout role all of the ewar skills are vital. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9823	Posted - 2014.10.21 02:50:00 - [14] - Quote All or nothing. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Chrome HD BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 34	Posted - 2014.10.21 04:55:00 - [15] - Quote Alright appreciate the feedback I will definatelly skill them up to 5 next theyre currently at 3 +1

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8954	Posted - 2014.10.21 06:06:00 - [16] - Quote Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

CamClarke KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 181	Posted - 2014.10.21 06:11:00 - [17] - Quote They'll help you see unskilled assaults...once they're in your face or just around a corner. Too bad anyone who wants to win doesn't run assault. Scouts and sentinels 514, man. Feels bad. @OP: You want both. Both will make you live longer. Whichever you do first, if you prefer hiding go Dampening, if you prefer seeing go Precision.
Jathniel G I A N T 1199	Posted - 2014.10.21 06:31:00 - [18] - Quote Gallente Scout is undisputed king of EWAR. Pure gk.0 EWAR - 2 Complex Dampeners, 2 Complex Range Enhancers, 2 Complex Precision Enhancers, and proto/adv cloak. w/ shotgun, TAR, BAR, or ACR....will have people raging... just like this. I guarantee it. It's dampening CANNOT be broken and scanned while cloaked. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 106	Posted - 2014.10.21 06:44:00 - [19] - Quote CamClarke wrote: They'll help you see unskilled assaults...once they're in your face or just around a corner. Too bad anyone who wants to win doesn't run assault. Scouts and sentinels 514, man. Feels bad. @OP: You want both. Both will make you live longer. Whichever you do first, if you prefer hiding go Dampening, if you prefer seeing go Precision. Very true unfortunately.. But I still do (and finish 1st killer at almost every battle) ! Sorry for my bad english.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2059	Posted - 2014.10.21 07:42:00 - [20] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Gallente Scout is undisputed king of EWAR. Pure gk.0 EWAR - 2 Complex Dampeners, 2 Complex Range Enhancers, 2 Complex Precision Enhancers, and proto/adv cloak. w/ shotgun, TAR, BAR, or ACR....will have people raging... just like this. I guarantee it. It's dampening CANNOT be broken and scanned while cloaked. Yes I have used fits similar to this, its a nice role to play but personally I grew to dislike it in some ways as with this fit, you are great in a squad or solo and offer a very heightened sense of awareness for yourself and squad. However you have: A. Bugger all speed (which is I guess a personal preference maybe) B. Bugger all hit points, (A rail rifle or other rifleman you didn't spot or you were not made aware of by your scans will pick you off in a split second at even 80-100M range.) C. I would argue more limited in your weapon role (I.E high alpha damage weapons [SG,PLC etc..] suit this loadout more than general rifles) "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12748	Posted - 2014.10.21 07:49:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8959	Posted - 2014.10.21 08:10:00 - [22] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Thanks for nothing "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Kaughst Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 745	Posted - 2014.10.21 08:27:00 - [23] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. I wish we had a new role for medium suits specifically design to disrupt a suits ability to find a signature... "Why do we fight?" "To win the war." "Meh... Works for me."
voidfaction Nos Nothi 604	Posted - 2014.10.21 08:45:00 - [24] - Quote Chrome HD wrote: Is getting dampening worth it as a cal scout? or should I go precision? Cal scout #1 Dampening #2 Shield Extenders Everything else is optional Cal squad passive scanner #1 Range #2 Precision Everything else is optional
iKILLu osborne Kirjuun Heiian 433	Posted - 2014.10.21 08:49:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge ewar is king in any situation, even heavy vs heavy, cause you can see them before they can see you. I miss 1.7 i was a god, nobody even knew what a dampener was, why did 1.8 devs make scouts so op, causing every osborne wanna-be to flock to ewar why!!!!! .... i blame tom cruise lp cal scout i demand it kirjuun heiian now recruiting cal loyalist
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1361	Posted - 2014.10.21 10:55:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge Thank god, within a month Rattati may realize these skills mean little unless you are against mercs with no suit bonuses / passive Ewar skills .. then they'l do fine Against a scout, actually running scout... you'l die Innapropriate Irrelevence...
NAV HIV The Generals 2157	Posted - 2014.10.21 14:16:00 - [27] - Quote Chrome HD wrote: Is getting dampening worth it as a cal scout? or should I go precision? Get a Gal scout, they ruined Cal scouts.
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI Bragian Order Amarr Empire 71	Posted - 2014.10.21 14:18:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They won't...
NAV HIV The Generals 2157	Posted - 2014.10.21 14:28:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Thanks for nothing Gal scout + 3 Complex Dampeners + Proto Cloak being tracked by a Commando with a Laser rifle (not saying it's the commando or the laser rifle) it was when i hit the bottom with this game. I have a Cal Scout too, that's beyond useless. (being tracked by heavies when i'm using 2 Comp Dampeners) Why did you guys listen to all these cry babies and ruin the game for us ?! Anything other than brick tanked suits is borderline useless. Choices we made were supposed to have bonuses and consequences.... I ended up with 2 Proto Assault Suits, 2 Proto Scout suits, 1 Proto Heavy and Proto Commando... Choices don't mean anything anymore. It is better to remove that "Description" section from each suit, weapon and item. it get's changed every two weeks anyways.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 3882	Posted - 2014.10.21 14:32:00 - [30] - Quote both "War determines not who is right, but who is left." Closed Beta Vet Scout before it was cool

Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6760	Posted - 2014.10.21 15:44:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Thanks for nothing It's the truth though. The base range on the Assault is so small that it poses more problems than benefits. 1) You've likely seen anything within that range and if you haven't, they saw -you- and there's a reason they're behind you. 2) The only thing that will be within that range to begin with is CQC and if they're that close, it's already too late to do anything about it. 3) This is assuming you even see it as the icons will often be too close together for you to even notice something is there. 4) Obligatory mention of the 'not able to hear anything behind me' optimization that makes the base scan range useless all together. { \| bittervetmode = 0 I } == Description == This player has recovered morale [[Category: Hopeful]]
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 542	Posted - 2014.10.21 15:55:00 - [32] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Thanks for nothing It's good for true-noob stomping. If they have dampening skills trained up, it will cancel out your precision skills. You can use your Assault radar to guess who will be the weakest link and knock them out fast. Most vets will have dampening 5. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8056	Posted - 2014.10.21 16:40:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge well....I've some bad news for you Rattati CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD RUST415 280	Posted - 2014.10.21 17:26:00 - [34] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault Adapt or Die!
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2561	Posted - 2014.10.21 17:28:00 - [35] - Quote Taurion Bruni wrote: Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners Your Min Ass has a sig less then 35dB?! "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8057	Posted - 2014.10.21 17:37:00 - [36] - Quote Taurion Bruni wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners No it's not. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 71	Posted - 2014.10.22 16:15:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Thanks for nothing Wouldn't it be nice to have a much longer sensor range, but with the falloff mechanic that many modules have space-side? Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1793	Posted - 2014.10.22 16:24:00 - [38] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners No it's not. I believe you are correct. According to my numbers, a Min Assault (50 dB base, 45 dB with max skills) needs 1 complex damp (34 dB with max skills) to evade vehicle scanners (35 dB). Taurion, How did you arrive at your conclusion to the contrary?
Monty Mole Clone Ametat Security Amarr Empire 235	Posted - 2014.10.22 16:52:00 - [39] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. of course it will help, even if you use an assault suit. not everybody uses a scout and every medium wont have dampening to 5, granted outside your eyes serve you better but indoors or when hacking stuff people can spawn on, you get a heads up all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1830	Posted - 2014.10.22 17:04:00 - [40] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Chrome HD wrote: Is getting dampening worth it as a cal scout? or should I go precision? Don't dampen...as with the 30% bonus from caldari scout operati0n V and dampening V you dont need to. I run precision with codebreakers to catch any sneaky scouts sneaking up on me on my radar are you new? KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer



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