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        |  Aeon Amadi
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 6760
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.10.21 15:44:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge   They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Thanks for nothing   
 It's the truth though. The base range on the Assault is so small that it poses more problems than benefits.
 
 1) You've likely seen anything within that range and if you haven't, they saw -you- and there's a reason they're behind you.
 2) The only thing that will be within that range to begin with is CQC and if they're that close, it's already too late to do anything about it.
 3) This is assuming you even see it as the icons will often be too close together for you to even notice something is there.
 4) Obligatory mention of the 'not able to hear anything behind me' optimization that makes the base scan range useless all together.
 
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        |  Luk Manag
 of Terror
 TRE GAFFEL
 
 542
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.10.21 15:55:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge   They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Thanks for nothing   
 It's good for true-noob stomping. If they have dampening skills trained up, it will cancel out your precision skills. You can use your Assault radar to guess who will be the weakest link and knock them out fast. Most vets will have dampening 5.
 
 There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror] | 
      
      
        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 
 8056
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.10.21 16:40:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge   well....I've some bad news for you Rattati
 
 CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.  | 
      
      
        |  Taurion Bruni
 D3ATH CARD
 RUST415
 
 280
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.10.21 17:26:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge   They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. 
 Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners
 
 Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault Adapt or Die! | 
      
      
        |  Xocoyol Zaraoul
 Superior Genetics
 
 2561
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.10.21 17:28:00 -
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 Taurion Bruni wrote:Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners 
 Your Min Ass has a sig less then 35dB?!
 
 "You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire | 
      
      
        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 
 8057
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.10.21 17:37:00 -
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 Taurion Bruni wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge   They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners No it's not.
 
 CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.  | 
      
      
        |  Thaddeus Reynolds
 Facepunch Security
 
 71
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.10.22 16:15:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge   They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Thanks for nothing   
 Wouldn't it be nice to have a much longer sensor range, but with the falloff mechanic that many modules have space-side?
 
 Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers. | 
      
      
        |  Leadfoot10
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1793
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.10.22 16:24:00 -
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 Sgt Kirk wrote:Taurion Bruni wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge   They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners No it's not. 
 I believe you are correct.
 
 According to my numbers, a Min Assault (50 dB base, 45 dB with max skills) needs 1 complex damp (34 dB with max skills) to evade vehicle scanners (35 dB).
 
 Taurion, How did you arrive at your conclusion to the contrary?
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        |  Monty Mole Clone
 Ametat Security
 Amarr Empire
 
 235
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.10.22 16:52:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge   They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. 
 of course it will help, even if you use an assault suit. not everybody uses a scout and every medium wont have dampening to 5, granted outside your eyes serve you better but indoors or when hacking stuff people can spawn on, you get a heads up
 
 all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others | 
      
      
        |  CUSE TOWN333
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1830
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.10.22 17:04:00 -
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 xavier zor wrote:are you new?Chrome HD wrote:Is getting dampening worth it as a cal scout? or should I go precision? Don't dampen...as with the 30% bonus from caldari scout operati0n V and dampening V you dont need to. I run precision with codebreakers to catch any sneaky scouts sneaking up on me on my radar  
 
 KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer | 
      
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