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![Aeon Amadi Aeon Amadi](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Aeon Amadi
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
6760
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:44:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Thanks for nothing ![X](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_x.png)
It's the truth though. The base range on the Assault is so small that it poses more problems than benefits.
1) You've likely seen anything within that range and if you haven't, they saw -you- and there's a reason they're behind you. 2) The only thing that will be within that range to begin with is CQC and if they're that close, it's already too late to do anything about it. 3) This is assuming you even see it as the icons will often be too close together for you to even notice something is there. 4) Obligatory mention of the 'not able to hear anything behind me' optimization that makes the base scan range useless all together.
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![Luk Manag Luk Manag](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
542
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Posted - 2014.10.21 15:55:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Thanks for nothing ![X](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_x.png)
It's good for true-noob stomping. If they have dampening skills trained up, it will cancel out your precision skills. You can use your Assault radar to guess who will be the weakest link and knock them out fast. Most vets will have dampening 5.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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![Sgt Kirk Sgt Kirk](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8056
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Posted - 2014.10.21 16:40:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) well....I've some bad news for you Rattati
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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![Taurion Bruni Taurion Bruni](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Taurion Bruni
D3ATH CARD RUST415
280
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Posted - 2014.10.21 17:26:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range.
Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners
Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault
Adapt or Die!
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![Xocoyol Zaraoul Xocoyol Zaraoul](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2561
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Posted - 2014.10.21 17:28:00 -
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Taurion Bruni wrote:Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners
Your Min Ass has a sig less then 35dB?!
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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![Sgt Kirk Sgt Kirk](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
8057
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Posted - 2014.10.21 17:37:00 -
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Taurion Bruni wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners No it's not.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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![Thaddeus Reynolds Thaddeus Reynolds](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
71
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Posted - 2014.10.22 16:15:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Thanks for nothing ![X](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_x.png)
Wouldn't it be nice to have a much longer sensor range, but with the falloff mechanic that many modules have space-side?
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
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![Leadfoot10 Leadfoot10](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1793
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Posted - 2014.10.22 16:24:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Taurion Bruni wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range. Dampening lv 5 is enough for my min assault to hide from vehicle scanners No it's not.
I believe you are correct.
According to my numbers, a Min Assault (50 dB base, 45 dB with max skills) needs 1 complex damp (34 dB with max skills) to evade vehicle scanners (35 dB).
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![Monty Mole Clone Monty Mole Clone](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Monty Mole Clone
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
235
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Posted - 2014.10.22 16:52:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Last weekend I spent roughly 10 million SP on optimizations on Gallente stuff and fully going Level 5 (from Level 2) on Dampening/Range and Precision. I never fit those modules but I am hoping the passive bonuses give me an Assault edge ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) They wont. The base range on the assault is really bad, so even heavies, despite having a huge signature, are practically invisible without direct LOS. Dampening to V will only hide you from basic scanners, which are quite rare on the battlefield. Precision won't help you without range.
of course it will help, even if you use an assault suit. not everybody uses a scout and every medium wont have dampening to 5, granted outside your eyes serve you better but indoors or when hacking stuff people can spawn on, you get a heads up
all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others
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![CUSE TOWN333 CUSE TOWN333](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1830
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Posted - 2014.10.22 17:04:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Chrome HD wrote:Is getting dampening worth it as a cal scout? or should I go precision? Don't dampen...as with the 30% bonus from caldari scout operati0n V and dampening V you dont need to. I run precision with codebreakers to catch any sneaky scouts sneaking up on me on my radar are you new?![What?](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_question.png)
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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