3) Incubus is less efficient than the Python, in effective kills per spawn, or K/S. (i.e. Shield better than Armor)

4) Yet, people complain that the Python is worse than the Incubus, even after the rail ROF nerf.

as i recall dosnt rails have like 200m range ? and swarms are only 175m? that means you could hover.. drop players with an MCRU and have you+2 gunners spraying down on people from like 176m high.. and iirc isnt incubus with blaster a beast vs other ADS/DS and HAV as i recall people saying it had like 3000 dps

They won't render that far away.

I don't need to watch a video I fly an Incubus and say it's fine... The only problem is with swarms.

In your video you missed the last shot which would have downed the Python & then you hovered there infront of it to get shot... That was not a good argument for fixing the issue.

I know this isnt relationed with ur post but, awesome video "For the love of Dropships"

I think the RoF on all turrets need to be increased by 15%, and have a different bonus for the ADS, maybe:

+5% Splash Radius per Level (Python)
+8% Heat Sink Expansion per Level (Incubus)

Not only that, but the Damage on 20GJ Railguns also needs an increase. As it stands now, they have absolutely no chance against a 'Triple Rep' Madrugar.

Well posted. They do look really bad right now.

It's like Maddies.

Useless as HAV, and might as well be removed, as shields do everything better.

Huh... well, that's kinda BS... I knew the ROF got cut, but I wasn't aware the heat buildup got such an increase... WTF, CCP? And a better question would be, why is the main complaint about these things right now swarms when your AV turret is nearly useless?

Wait i just noticed something the small rail turret was the last good gallente weapon and now its broken like all the others. I guess the shotguns still good but the officer that just came out sucks horribly.

If they would push back the ROF to what it was, but add a penalty that actually reduces the damage (or just lower the damage, but this would affect other uses of the small rail turrets) they could get around this problem. Or why don't they just have a hidden penalty attached to the dropship? That way players would have the original rate of fire, so no terrible heat issue/bug, but do less damage so that it would require more shots and provide a more balanced ship.

What video? Can you provide a link?

I'm saying that if the rate of fire and overheat are too close together to adjust one without seriously messing with the other than my option looks like a viable choice. I personally am fine with the rate of fire except it drops the DPS and combined with the heat build-up issue makes it unable to seriously take on vehicles/installations.

You were fractionally off the right side in my view... But as for the rails not being balanced if your only issue is the higher level heat buildup issue then I agree with you, however if you're suggesting that it's no good at lvl 0 - 3 then I'd have to disagree as I am quite happy with the lvl 3 rails.

It also sucks to have to be so pinpoint accurate with a rail and yet take damage so easily from swarms. Pythons just run off or hover close down to their lil b*tch swarmer buddy now. Missile turret shouldn't be the better choice for an Incubus.

Also, imo, I wouldn't stick turrets on my ADS because it takes away from tank. I'd rather NOT lose 300k than get a few vehicle kill assists.

The Incubus it self is not broken.

As a Python pilot I can say without doubt the Incubus is in a rough place. Right now its only 'bonus' is being tough enough to ram a python out of the sky.

Before, yes the railgun was OP on the incubus. The missiles were a OP vs infantry. Right now the missiles are reasonable vs infantry and lacking a little vs vehicles but they are still in a much better place than rails are against anything.

Lets not forget the small blasters though for the incubus, they are actually really good again now for those that forget about that.

Overall the rails need fixing. Lets not kid ourselves, the main reason this all got changed so much was because of pilot stacking skills. I would like to see a balance where every dropship is totally viable in its role, a good missile python pilot should beat a bad rail incubus but a good rail incubus should be able to kill a good missile python.

Lets not forget the missiles do have the advantage of being versatile against most targets where as an incubus has to pick an anti infantry or an anti vehicle role. (Further, blasters are only good for side gunners. The blaster sucks balls for the ADS main weapon)

So yes balance for all please.

I agree that lvl 1 shouldn't be better than lvl 5 (as it is at the moment) but I also disagree that we should be able to destroy a vehicle without having the deal with the heat buildup, having to save a few shots is far more entertaining than the 'pew pew pew dead Python/Gunlogi' of pre-Delta...

LOL ok blasters are good AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT put them on an Incubus be it for the gunner. you shot 48-54 rounds before you over heat. and use them as the pilot you do better crushing reds then shooting them.

lol want a good ads then here skill into the assault dropship skill (bonus to damage) but do not skill into the gall ads skill for the rof and ammo. you will do better damage and shoot more with the rails this way. you do not have to have that skill to use the incubus. funny CCP is hurting players that skilled into the gall ads lol.