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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.17 15:12:00 -
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One at a time , too many changes never work out too well and you don't want to handicap scout too much or else we will be where we first started and the buffing process will start again and might make matters worst .
Little changes first to the role to even out those who use the strengths as an exploit , we don't want to punish those who have been steady at playing the role and who don't use the role to pad their kill ratio .
They should fashion them similar to Logistic , where now you really can't be too much a " slayer logi " unless you sacrifice a lot and still your not going to be too effective for too long .
Those who truly play the role like it's meant to be true scouts , some roles just don't have a consequential purpose .
CCP is working on that even obviously .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.17 15:58:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:
However, I think adding a greater movement penalty to Plate Armour (not ferro or reactive) for light frame suits would only effect Scouts that stack a lot of Plate.
Combine that with reduced Scan radius while Cloaked, and I think you have a couple steps in the right direction without effecting the old-school hard core Scouts at all.
They should listen to you Fox and just implement these two measures to begin with and they just might realize , that's all they needed to do .
Don't mess with CPU / PG or take away a light weapon slot or EQ slot either .
I always thought along the lines of bigger penalty for fitting plate armor on light frame suits , so I agree on that premise .
These two fixes should be enough to begin with and might prove to be all that was needed .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.17 16:09:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:
IDK, it just looks like that is the only place where there is developer discussion about scouts, and that discussion is occuring with 4-5 people who all have a heavy scout bias.
Looking at general discussion, there are a LOT of people who are really unhappy with scouts, yet they are being fully left out of the discussion. Seems wrong to me.
I'm on record saying that scouts should handle the discussion on and about changes needed to their role , too many times , too many players who just DO NOT play a particular role , have too much weight in the direction that the role that they DO NOT PLAY goes in , sometimes in their comments they even admit that they don't play the role and to see that and still count these same people as knowledgeable is just foolish .
This isn't the end all to be all , I think that someone was just concerned and posed a opinion and question for the community to muse over .
Doesn't mean I agree and doesn't make it right but it could bring scouts to the table for discussion and that in it's self is a good thing .
I say myself that I rarely use scouts and I use them to anti-vehicle for the most part , I have my core to 4 and cal scout to three and just don't use them .
I know that as much as I hate seeing 8 out of the 16 players in a match using scouts , I still can not be bias to them because that's just not productive to the over all health of the game .
Also I use HAV's and snipe , also logi and heavy so I know what bias does to a role , it kills it and it just seems like CCP listens to those with bias for the most part .
We can turn this discussion in the direction where it could benefit the efforts in finding a common ground .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.17 16:22:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:
I still say the way to go is to apply bonuses to the modules instead of the suit itself.
Another great point .
This will encourage players to invest in the skills instead of getting a bonus for the suit and bypassing the need for investment .
This will tie the player to the role more and encourage the use of mods to enhance the experience .
Those who stack armor and run light assault will not have the functionality because they will not be able to use the percentages of bonuses from not having the skills / mods in usage .
Couple this with Fox's two suggestions and this is a win - win and will not punish TRUE SCOUTS in the least .
These three changes should be all that would be needed .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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