Assaults get naturally countered by entrenched sentinels they try to rush down.

Sentinels are geographically countered by Commando's/Assaults taking up elevated positions with mass drivers/rail rifles, as well as scout assassins.

Commando's get wrecked by Assaults/Heavies on even terrain.

Logi's get wrecked by everyone.

Scouts get wrecked by......?

And let's not say situational awareness, because it does not exist in a game with a memory leak prone sound engine and poor frame rate. It seems to me that the only possible counter is a higher level of skill than the scout himself possesses in terms of gun game. Which is interesting really, as that is not a natural pre-requisite for any other type of counter in the game, instead a reinforcer of the mandate.

But you know, I'm experimenting with various builds due to boredom so if you have any thoughts on this please let me know.

Dying as a scout means making a mistake.
You are always the one who picks the fights, unlike every other unit where they can have scouts attack them out of nowhere, meaning they are on the defensive.

With alpha weapons like shotguns and nova knives, it really does come down to making a mistake.

Cloaks made avoiding mistakes easier.

No amount of situational awareness is going to allow you to detect a cloaked scout in broad daylight (Where the shimmer is barely visible) as you are busy not dying from the HMG around the corner.

One at a time , too many changes never work out too well and you don't want to handicap scout too much or else we will be where we first started and the buffing process will start again and might make matters worst .

Little changes first to the role to even out those who use the strengths as an exploit , we don't want to punish those who have been steady at playing the role and who don't use the role to pad their kill ratio .

They should fashion them similar to Logistic , where now you really can't be too much a " slayer logi " unless you sacrifice a lot and still your not going to be too effective for too long .

Those who truly play the role like it's meant to be true scouts , some roles just don't have a consequential purpose .

CCP is working on that even obviously .

So you're making the cloak even more bad than it is? Basically, by equipping and using the cloak, you'd be a walking pile of uselessness.

Will you guys at least buff the duration time a bit? Right now, it can't be used for anything other than penetrate a 30m area.

Going to THE scout thread to talk about nerfing scouts is like going to the extremely wealthy to ask about tax codes, you are not going to get an honest assessment. The amount of group-think in that thread is scary.

Math doesn't lie, you have the metrics, you can easily find out many correlations through math.

Then you'd probably just have scouts stacking FS plates. They aren't that hard to fit and provide nearly as much hp as the basic plate.

I still say the way to go is to apply bonuses to the modules instead of the suit itself.

Cloak Fields are Caldari, not Gallente.