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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 12:51:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:If Legion dies so will my enjoyment of the FPS genre. The fact that Destiny is supposed to be the "Pinnacle" of FPSs proves just how sad the whole genre is now.
At least Dust/Legion are unique with real loss and risk/reward.
Nope boyo pinnacle was MAG with 256 players online
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 13:01:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:If Legion dies so will my enjoyment of the FPS genre. The fact that Destiny is supposed to be the "Pinnacle" of FPSs proves just how sad the whole genre is now.
At least Dust/Legion are unique with real loss and risk/reward. Nope boyo pinnacle was MAG with 256 players online PS2 had trumped that card at launch. though lately its hard to find anything larger than a dust 514 squad to go kill in that game.
Honestly nope, in MAG there was healhty push bz game to playing cooperatively. PL2 most strategic level is just Zerging the base. (trust me i played that game for really long time)
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 13:09:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Honestly nope, in MAG there was healhty push bz game to playing cooperatively. PL2 most strategic level is just Zerging the base. (trust me i played that game for really long time) The largest PS2 battle was something approaching 2,000 players. It was fighting over one base and lasted around 40 minutes. There are videos of it on Youtube... Now I'm not a mathematician but ~2,000 > 256
Oki once again.
Coop and strategy (MAG) against Zergin' (Pl2) I go for Coop
Whats mean MAG with its 256 players with coop means bigger to me, that Skyrim siyed maps where is zerg king. BTW honestly do you need play advocate with completely different game just for "DUST Win". I was great fan of PL2, but win nothing new i went back to Dust because i like this game. Its just sad how i sad many times before, there is not bigger playercount support.
Just imagine zippers server with dust on it.
Something like MAG domination modes, where you unlocking points after points till you dont explode contenders base.
Its should be awesome.
I dont know if im too old and i like something what is not mainstream like just kill, but honestly bigger push for more cooperative mode can be great here.
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 13:20:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Oki once again. Coop and strategy (MAG) against Zergin' (Pl2) I go for Coop Pay close attention. Here was the original comment IWS made... Iron Wolf Saber wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Nope boyo pinnacle was MAG with 256 players online PS2 had trumped that card at launch. though lately its hard to find anything larger than a dust 514 squad to go kill in that game. He was replying to the size of battles in MAG vs. PS2. I don't think he said anything about the quality of game play in one or the other Just that PS2 had bigger fights than MAG. Now that we have cleared that up, I'll stop derailing the thread.
Bigger fight just from count of numbers, oki i agree i put just small info. Oki once more with bigger info.
Pinacle of gaming on Ps3 was for me MAG it great balance in playability, playercount and healthy push for cooperation between sqads.
Is that better now?!
I like Dust because it have that skill deep system and i think with bigger player counts and with more modes (like MAG domination was) it should be THAT pinnacle, about what OP takls
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 13:21:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Planet side 2 is OK. Not really much happening other than bum rushing points.
Thats basicaly about what i talking, there is no push for more cooperation and strategy basicaly this is a king there.
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 13:41:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:Yeah, I have that gut feeling that Legion is going down too. But I am a sad panda for saying it.
It would be a terrible waste of cool ideas, assets and experience. There is some commitment to the Dust/Legion side of the franchise showing in the trailers and comments on fanfest. But there is less than a bit of hope now for me that Legion is getting some development boost and all of fanfest wasnt just lip service.
I really hope I am wrong though, and all this silence was just a symptom of "must work faster, no time for community-management".
Honestly i will be more for "Love4Dust" than for Legion, from one and honest reason. I'll not be in Legion and i basicaly want to see more content what was showed us before here in Dust
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 13:50:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:
'CPM1 tells us that Legion is still under development'
We say this because we've not heard anything to the contrary. If we had, we'd be unable say so because of the NDA.
so if legion is redlight, you can't even tell us?!?! While CCP may push more aurum sales to us? I am sure this has to be some kind of typo or momentary error in logic. #IHATENDA
Honestly i understand, thats better for them and somehow for us too. Just imagine our stuff putted in different game, before the copyright on that thingie will be even introduced
I know it is basicaly B*shtae how we can know thingies, but hell whatever i will still wait for some good stuff in future here in Dust ..hopefully
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 13:55:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:
'CPM1 tells us that Legion is still under development'
We say this because we've not heard anything to the contrary. If we had, we'd be unable say so because of the NDA.
so if legion is redlight, you can't even tell us?!?! While CCP may push more aurum sales to us? I am sure this has to be some kind of typo or momentary error in logic. #IHATENDA Of course we couldn't tell you. We signed an NDA. That said, I think if we stopped talking or answering questions about it, you could make a pretty good guess as to its status.
Pure logic.
no talking about it = Nothing or Something
its quite informative RD
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:00:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:I know this hurts most people.. but I'm not looking forward to the aim bots on PC.
Same here, first of all dont have Pc for it, second of all dont want to buy pc for it and third and most important thingie there was some thingies what was promised some time ago and i basicaly still waiting for them
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:01:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:I know this hurts most people.. but I'm not looking forward to the aim bots on PC. Won't be much different then Destiny's ridiculous aim assist.
Dust 514 and Destiny = DIFFERENT GAMES
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:14:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Same here, first of all dont have Pc for it, second of all dont want to buy pc for it and third and most important thingie there was some thingies what was promised some time ago and i basicaly still waiting for them People always bring up these promises CCP made. Can you link me to a devblog or bluetag forum post where CCP promised us things?
Sorry dont want to finding thigies for you, some o them was full racial vehicles, weapons, structures and maps. Full coop and impact with Eve. Hell these thingies and wait i remember one of devs actually told something about how he support idea for future implementation of throphies even.
I dont know if you want to troll me or make my post irrelevant or even mock me for dishonesty, but this thingies were told and i still waiting full of hope, for them to be future implements.
Hell i dont care if they will make Legion or not (how i told i will not participate in that game), i will be actually glad if everything will be connected later to some kind of big picture scheme (what can actually be awesome), but hell there is still that many thingies not implemented and unfinished.
I will gladly put another ideas and money and i will still believe in future of Dust, because i like this game even its unfinished in my eyes.
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:18:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Someone mentioned not wanting to overpromise earlier.....
=nutshell
Someone promised "L4z0r p0in73d" development too boyo
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Same here, first of all dont have Pc for it, second of all dont want to buy pc for it and third and most important thingie there was some thingies what was promised some time ago and i basicaly still waiting for them People always bring up these promises CCP made. Can you link me to a devblog or bluetag forum post where CCP promised us things? Sorry dont want to finding thigies for you, some o them was full racial vehicles, weapons, structures and maps. Full coop and impact with Eve. Hell these thingies and wait i remember one of devs actually told something about how he support idea for future implementation of throphies even. I dont know if you want to troll me or make my post irrelevant or even mock me for dishonesty, but this thingies were told and i still waiting full of hope, for them to be future implements. Hell i dont care if they will make Legion or not (how i told i will not participate in that game), i will be actually glad if everything will be connected later to some kind of big picture scheme (what can actually be awesome), but hell there is still that many thingies not implemented and unfinished. I will gladly put another ideas and money and i will still believe in future of Dust, because i like this game even its unfinished in my eyes. Mind you the EP who made those promises is no longer with us.
And thats all, just "he is not here=we dont want", or how do you meant it?! You want to tell me, CCP dont want to do it?!
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:22:00 -
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Honestly u know what boyos, im out of this conversation. Beause more time what i spent in this thread im more and more negative and i dont want be. Sorry if i insult someone or if i made bad blood, but whatever XP
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 21:07:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I don't see any way that Dust and Legion carry on at the same time. So by not talking about Legion at all, it leads me to believe that Dust most certainly has an expiration date.
Plus it's on the PS3. How long will people stick around in numbers on the PS3? You don't see how a console game and a PC game could carry on at the same time? Plus, a lot of free-to-play gamers aren't going to drop $400 on a new console with like three good games on it.
Do you really think people will buy PC just because of same state of "good games" on Pc platform?! C'mon its same on pc like on consoles. Time of great games is gone, its really difficult to see some interestinf and fresh titles on any of platforms. Hell buying a new pc for Legion, like really..honestly i see really small procentual count from orthodox player base will do something like that.
Argument about 400bucks on this or that is really irelewant if situation is same on every platform.
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 21:20:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I think it will be next to impossible for any person that's ever been under Dust's spell to NOT get a PC to play Legion.
I think of Dust with PVE on better hardware and I worry about needing to get therapy for gaming addiction.
Not me honestly, i like this game, but i will not buying pc just for one f2p game. I playing good ol' games on my ol' i5 2.3ghz nvidia gforce gt 540m laptop and i know i basicaly dont need spent other money on something what will need tower with water cooling and card half year old in 2016 for playing dust with pve and better graphix. If they push it on ps4 oki maybe after some time, but pc NAAH
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 21:24:00 -
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Honestly i think this too, if legion is in early stadium it will seem like they have still nothing than that "onetank map" what we saw before. And if Legion will be that big and contains PvE aspect too, how they told, it will take some time to develop something like that big.
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 21:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Honestly i think this too, if legion is in early stadium it will seem like they have still nothing than that "onetank map" what we saw before. And if Legion will be that big and contains PvE aspect too, how they told, it will take some time to develop something like that big. Occasional status report would be nice but at the scale of the project's primordial, and shifting soup as similarly what all projects; big time events are not the place for projects yet to be greenlit. Still CCP should be putting forward the effort to communicate.
Honestly they communictae more now, than before boyo. Status report about project what is in napies, i think info is for nothing here. Oki we know ccp workin' on it (because there wasnt annoucement for cancelation or freez) and for what other stories?! Im more into dust anyway and sadly i didnt saw anything about it on EvE vegas fest
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.14 23:40:00 -
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Duke Noobiam wrote:As a grown man who does software development for a living I am blown away at how many self entitled whiners there are in the DUST community.
I've spent about $150 on this game and I have no regrets. I have no regrets because it's a game I play almost every day and I've derived hundreds if not thousands of hours of enjoyment from it.
CCP owes me nothing. I won't pout and whine and insist that CCP tell me what they are doing when the reality is that I didn't even pay enough money to cover one days wages for a developer.
Unless you commission the work and pay for the whole project, then CCP owes you nothing.
All you freeloaders who play this game everyday while refusing to pay because you "don't approve of the direction CCP is taking" are basically parasites.
For those few who invested significant amounts of money, I can understand that you are disappointed and I want to thank you for supporting the game, but those are the breaks and you should of understood that nothing is owed to you.
I dont think CCP owes me anything, i'll be just glad if there will be some major upgrades and implements in future, thats all. I spent some money too (like a thx to a visible improvements to game) and im prepared to put some more money, only what i want (thats meant like what i will like to see) is some future love, for dust maybe with some new thingies, nothing else. If they'll make some implements i will be glad, if they implement everything what i saw before i'll be in seventh heaven. Thats all.
I dont want be like i was before, toxic with every that b*shate what i told. I want be supportive about Dust and about CCP.
Hell im glad we have Dust, i dont know how it will be with legion, but i like dust and i like lore around dust and EvE. I just pray for some implements i do not demand them, i just believe
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.16 02:35:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:All legion needs is money, time, and lots of advertisement.
I am fully convinced that if the core mechanics are fixed, Legion will be even better than Destiny
Dust and Destiny = DIFFERENT GAMES
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2014.10.16 02:54:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:All legion needs is money, time, and lots of advertisement.
I am fully convinced that if the core mechanics are fixed, Legion will be even better than Destiny Dust and Destiny = DIFFERENT GAMES Not that different.
But still different, in style, core, skilling, mechanix, gameplay, lore. Ergo different.
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