Dust should have taken a page from Star Wars Battlefront and simply done the following:

• Make it hard for infantry to kill Vehicles


• Make it difficult for vehicles to kill infantry

That way you don't have infantry complaining that vehicles are unfair death machines and yet vehicles don't complain that they have tinfoil for armor.

So reduce the damage of AV weapons and reduce the damage of vehicle weapons/make vehicle weapons harder to use.

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It is actually this simple.

I like where tanks and AV are. Good tankers should be able to go 50-0 and goid AV'ers should kill tanks, I think that is pretty much where we are. Tankers may have issues but I don't think it is balance. Throw in the ADS and things get a little more complicated. The small changes in Delta seemed to be making pilots cry, some of that is probably justified and the changes should probably be tweaked.

Definitely on a better better Magnus.

Embark and Disembarking Vehicles needs to take longer to prevent quick escapes or ducking out with HMG to kill AVers at close quarters.

Main turrets should always been a OHKO on direct hit but have much slower tracking speeds and verticality, Splash AOE.

With real incentive for players to carry secondary gunners for protection.

Big NO to the "requires 2-3 Avers to kill though" One well placed AVers and 3-4 shots should do it.

Pure AV tanks? No. God no. Taking away their ability to shoot back would make killing them boring, and boring is a damn sin.
Secondary turrets ARE mostly anti-infantry, so this is a zero-sum solution.

One person drive tank? One person to destroy tank. It's that simple. There's a reason this mantra is hammered upon and that reason is Infantry Farming. One Av = One Tank lessens the phenomenon SHARPLY unless no one is willing to fit AV.

5-6 second dismount? I'd have to relearn my mobile donut roll maneuver timing but I can see this. Make the dismount time for all suits.

Anyone with a team is a porcupine of death. tanks supporting an infantry push are nearly untouchable unless their blueberries take the word "incompetent" and bring it to new depths of stupidity.

Right now my issue is that tanks don't act like tanks. the cannons should be slow-firing, high alpha, big blast.

Any weapon set up to behave like a machinegun is absolutely set up perfectly for farming infantry.

Uh dude..... Vehicles in Starwars Battlefront utterly destroy Infantry......

But at least grenades in Battlefront did damage to vehicles. And the maps were big enough that slowing a vehicle down really did matter.

I'm a tanker and Aztec isn't...as far as I am aware.

But Vesta you have to understand..... the good tankers.....and there were a lot of them were going upwards of 25+ kills a game even when Swarms and Forges dominated the maps from their non rendered positions.

Hell I was doing it to 52/1, 62/3, 45/0 and this was before 1.7 and the Tankpocalypse. I don't care if it was fair to infantry back then (prior to 1.7 when HAV were the closest to balanced they could have been), I earnt those kills on my merits.

if we had our surya and sagaris class marauder havs......then watch infantry complain.