DUST Search - We all need a respec. Please.

Cross Atu wrote:

Cpt McReady wrote:

here are some steadfast unbeatable arguments for the braindeads anti respec people

1. getting into the next FOTM takes like 2 weeks
2. the game is dead in terms of relevance. CCP has done almost everything to make anything here not matter.
3. dust is not eve, stop comparing it and making yourself look stupid. in eve you get all SP passive and you need less SP for skills. you can do other stuff for a month, come back and have something new at really good SP levels. in dust, this is not an option. beside that, if you are not happy you can aswell go to the market bazar and buy another character with ISK

only disillusioned scrubs would think differently about that Roll

Hyperbole aside none of this answers either of my questions posed above.

1. Define what "getting into" entails in your context here. How much SP are we talking about, how many new things being added to the current character, how many support skills assumed to already be in place, etc. Context matters
Also, if it is so simple then what virtues compel the need for a respec in the first place?

2. "Relevance" is, I suppose, subjective but this is pretty much a straw man. Content wise it amounts to saying "I think things are bad so I think it doesn't matter if we do stuff that makes things bad." Circular reasoning is not sound reasoning.
If this has more merit and context to it beyond a baseline 'bitter vet = yes' sentiment then please detail it so that I better understand because at present it really does sound like you are just saying "I don't care so you shouldn't either".

3. Dust is not EVE, correct. Insulting people isn't terribly constructive however and while I haven't compared it here so I do not take this comment to be directed at me I also cannot help but notice there are rather glaring reasons why someone might compare it.
Some skills in even take more than a month for a single level so "really good levels" seems heavily subjective, as does the claim that you "need less SP for skills". You are correct however that you can buy EVE characters with ISK, not that their terribly cheap, or that you are guaranteed to find the build you are looking for (depending, of course, on what you are looking for).

Really with the dismissive and hyperbolic tone of this post I cannot help but wonder why you care sufficiently about the subject to discuss it. If you are so scornful of the trivial impact that having a respec would, in your presented view, have. Then what makes not having a respec non-trivial within precisely the same context?

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Cross

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Logical Logi Immortal Guides 15	Posted - 2014.10.15 07:33:00 - [1] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: DrewEon1 wrote: I understand that you are not offering respecs due to issues you had in the past, but I'm sure we would all appreciate them. If you could just possibly give us the option to respec all of our skills once and be done with it, forever, maybe it would be manageable. Please consider giving us a respec. Thank you. And for anyone that agrees, make sure you like this post. You do get points for at least calling it a respec, and not respect, but seriously, another respec thread? I have yet to hear a valid reason/argument for this, and trust me, I've heard a lot of different ones. I accidentally triple clicked something while the skill tree was in the background and the third click skilled me into Small Turrets lv5. That's a valid reason right? Most valid yet at least. Matter o Fact, you should give me a respec and screw the rest of these Mercs =ƒÿ+ Director of Millitary Operations and General recruitment/training for Immortal Guides.
Logical Logi Immortal Guides 15	Posted - 2014.10.15 07:36:00 - [2] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Cpt McReady wrote: here are some steadfast unbeatable arguments for the braindeads anti respec people 1. getting into the next FOTM takes like 2 weeks 2. the game is dead in terms of relevance. CCP has done almost everything to make anything here not matter. 3. dust is not eve, stop comparing it and making yourself look stupid. in eve you get all SP passive and you need less SP for skills. you can do other stuff for a month, come back and have something new at really good SP levels. in dust, this is not an option. beside that, if you are not happy you can aswell go to the market bazar and buy another character with ISK only disillusioned scrubs would think differently about that Hyperbole aside none of this answers either of my questions posed above. 1. Define what "getting into" entails in your context here. How much SP are we talking about, how many new things being added to the current character, how many support skills assumed to already be in place, etc. Context matters Also, if it is so simple then what virtues compel the need for a respec in the first place? 2. "Relevance" is, I suppose, subjective but this is pretty much a straw man. Content wise it amounts to saying "I think things are bad so I think it doesn't matter if we do stuff that makes things bad." Circular reasoning is not sound reasoning. If this has more merit and context to it beyond a baseline 'bitter vet = yes' sentiment then please detail it so that I better understand because at present it really does sound like you are just saying "I don't care so you shouldn't either". 3. Dust is not EVE, correct. Insulting people isn't terribly constructive however and while I haven't compared it here so I do not take this comment to be directed at me I also cannot help but notice there are rather glaring reasons why someone might compare it. Some skills in even take more than a month for a single level so "really good levels" seems heavily subjective, as does the claim that you "need less SP for skills". You are correct however that you can buy EVE characters with ISK, not that their terribly cheap, or that you are guaranteed to find the build you are looking for (depending, of course, on what you are looking for). Really with the dismissive and hyperbolic tone of this post I cannot help but wonder why you care sufficiently about the subject to discuss it. If you are so scornful of the trivial impact that having a respec would, in your presented view, have. Then what makes not having a respec non-trivial within precisely the same context? 0.02 ISK Cross DAMN the CPM Gallente and their brick walls of text filling my mobile phone screen. Death to you all!!! Director of Millitary Operations and General recruitment/training for Immortal Guides.