DUST Search - We all need a respec. Please.

RayRay James wrote:

Logi Bro wrote:

GM Archduke wrote:

You do get points for at least calling it a respec, and not respect, but seriously, another respec thread?

I have yet to hear a valid reason/argument for this, and trust me, I've heard a lot of different ones.

Wow. Trolling Proficiency increased to 5.

Never heard a good argument huh? I don't know if you considered this or not, but just because YOU specifically don't think it is a good argument, that does not mean it isn't one. Considering the allocation of likes in this thread, you are clearly in the minority.

I'm assuming that you are of the mentality that, "you should pay for your mistakes," but what about the Gallente Sentinel, Caldari Scout, and Amarr Scout? In some cases they may be better because of their changes, but those changes made them completely different suits, and the player is hardly the one who made the mistake when the developer changed the way the suit plays.

But I'm wasting my breath, if you are the kind of GM who only posts to say, "trollololol nothing will change but I'm glad that you can at least spell," then my post is hardly going to do anything. I'm glad we have this player-dev/GM communication though, whatever it may be worth. Roll

All the arguments, like counts, and bullspit that's tossed around mean nothing if the DEVs and GMs don't want to give respecs.

The people who make the game have repeatedly and loudly said that there are no plans to give a respec.

What more needs to be said?


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Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 3374	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:17:00 - [1] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: You do get points for at least calling it a respec, and not respect, but seriously, another respec thread? I have yet to hear a valid reason/argument for this, and trust me, I've heard a lot of different ones. Wow. Trolling Proficiency increased to 5. Never heard a good argument huh? I don't know if you considered this or not, but just because YOU specifically don't think it is a good argument, that does not mean it isn't one. Considering the allocation of likes in this thread, you are clearly in the minority. I'm assuming that you are of the mentality that, "you should pay for your mistakes," but what about the Gallente Sentinel, Caldari Scout, and Amarr Scout? In some cases they may be better because of their changes, but those changes made them completely different suits, and the player is hardly the one who made the mistake when the developer changed the way the suit plays. But I'm wasting my breath, if you are the kind of GM who only posts to say, "trollololol nothing will change but I'm glad that you can at least spell," then my post is hardly going to do anything. I'm glad we have this player-dev/GM communication though, whatever it may be worth. SP Sinks? Fixed.
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 3374	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:28:00 - [2] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: I decided not to try and explain why we don't want respecs - again. Whatever I would say would be misinterpreted and you guys would just go on repeating the same over-used arguments. So I'll do the same, and just suggest to keep an eye on the Forum and DEV-Blog - if we'll ever have such an option in DUST 514 ever-ever-ever again, these are the two places it would be announced. I don't like to double post usually, but I had to after reading this golden comment. Let me summarize this: "You guy's arguments for respecs are totally overused and provide insufficient reason to actually give a respec, so we won't be doing it. What? You want to know our reason's for not wanting a respec? You can't handle our argument. Just trust us that it's totally solid." If our arguments are so over-used that you aren't even taking a millisecond to consider them, why would you even care if we misinterpret your explanation? SP Sinks? Fixed.
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 3374	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:32:00 - [3] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Logi Bro wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You do get points for at least calling it a respec, and not respect, but seriously, another respec thread? I have yet to hear a valid reason/argument for this, and trust me, I've heard a lot of different ones. Wow. Trolling Proficiency increased to 5. Never heard a good argument huh? I don't know if you considered this or not, but just because YOU specifically don't think it is a good argument, that does not mean it isn't one. Considering the allocation of likes in this thread, you are clearly in the minority. I'm assuming that you are of the mentality that, "you should pay for your mistakes," but what about the Gallente Sentinel, Caldari Scout, and Amarr Scout? In some cases they may be better because of their changes, but those changes made them completely different suits, and the player is hardly the one who made the mistake when the developer changed the way the suit plays. But I'm wasting my breath, if you are the kind of GM who only posts to say, "trollololol nothing will change but I'm glad that you can at least spell," then my post is hardly going to do anything. I'm glad we have this player-dev/GM communication though, whatever it may be worth. All the arguments, like counts, and bullspit that's tossed around mean nothing if the DEVs and GMs don't want to give respecs. The people who make the game have repeatedly and loudly said that there are no plans to give a respec. What more needs to be said? I said what needs to be said. If they don't want that respec so much, then fine, I'll live, but the fact that he comes in here trolling and saying everyone else's arguments are trash then specifically says that he isn't willing to give his own argument is an insult to the community. I'm just disappointed that I noticed this thread so late and that he probably won't be reading this thread any longer. SP Sinks? Fixed.
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 3374	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:53:00 - [4] - Quote RayRay James wrote: He's tired of saying the same thing, so he had a little fun. If you want to know the reasons, use the search function. Who are you, the arbiter of respecs? If I actually took the time to use the search function, and I don't need to because I've read the anti-respec argument a billion times before, I wouldn't be seeing trash talk from a community-developer liaison. You seem to think that I'm talking to you right now so you keep quoting me for some reason, but I'm not. I'm looking squarely at GM Archduke and hoping that he understands that if wants to be a troll he is hurting the little respect the community has for the relationship between themselves and the developers. All Archduke had to say was, "we have had discussions on this subject before internally at CCP and have decided it is not best to give a respec at this time, or very likely, at any time at all." Nothing more, nothing less, and most importantly, no trash. He can even copy paste it if he feels so inclined. SP Sinks? Fixed.