Cpt McReady
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.14 21:48:00 -
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here are some steadfast unbeatable arguments for the braindeads anti respec people
1. getting into the next FOTM takes like 2 weeks
2. the game is dead in terms of relevance. CCP has done almost everything to make anything here not matter.
3. dust is not eve, stop comparing it and making yourself look stupid. in eve you get all SP passive and you need less SP for skills. you can do other stuff for a month, come back and have something new at really good SP levels. in dust, this is not an option. beside that, if you are not happy you can aswell go to the market bazar and buy another character with ISK
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Cpt McReady
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
114
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Posted - 2014.10.15 10:38:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:
You do get points for at least calling it a respec, and not respect, but seriously, another respec thread?
I have yet to hear a valid reason/argument for this, and trust me, I've heard a lot of different ones.
respec could bring some people back and maybe they would buy AUR.
respec for AUR would definately earn money because they are plenty of people that would instantly buy one.
I have yet to hear a valid reason why getting more people to play and earning more money for dust/legion is a bad thing and if earning more money is not a valid reason for then I guess you do not want to earn more money in which case you might aswell give us all AUR items for free.
Cross Atu wrote:
1. Define what "getting into" entails in your context here. How much SP are we talking about, how many new things being added to the current character, how many support skills assumed to already be in place, etc. Context matters
Also, if it is so simple then what virtues compel the need for a respec in the first place?
2. "Relevance" is, I suppose, subjective but this is pretty much a straw man. Content wise it amounts to saying "I think things are bad so I think it doesn't matter if we do stuff that makes things bad." Circular reasoning is not sound reasoning.
If this has more merit and context to it beyond a baseline 'bitter vet = yes' sentiment then please detail it so that I better understand because at present it really does sound like you are just saying "I don't care so you shouldn't either".
3. Dust is not EVE, correct. Insulting people isn't terribly constructive however and while I haven't compared it here so I do not take this comment to be directed at me I also cannot help but notice there are rather glaring reasons why someone might compare it.
Some skills in even take more than a month for a single level so "really good levels" seems heavily subjective, as does the claim that you "need less SP for skills". You are correct however that you can buy EVE characters with ISK, not that their terribly cheap, or that you are guaranteed to find the build you are looking for (depending, of course, on what you are looking for).
Really with the dismissive and hyperbolic tone of this post I cannot help but wonder why you care sufficiently about the subject to discuss it. If you are so scornful of the trivial impact that having a respec would, in your presented view, have. Then what makes not having a respec non-trivial within precisely the same context?
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Cross
I am sorry for the aggressive tone but this topic is old and annoying and can be mostly summerized into following: some people want a respec, they bring good arguments for it, other people do not want that others get nice things and bring not so good arguments. then we have CCP that could increase player count and maybe earn some money but obviously they do not want to claiming "this is not a valid reason".
and regarding my 3 points:
@1 well I am talking about passive sp and capping out with boosters. enough to get decent levels of next FOTM in 2 weeks (not 2 weeks of play actually, capping out does not take that long). ofcourse this does not count support skills but you should have them already anyway from your previous stuff. getting into the next FOTM does not take much time but completey shifting all skills around another playstyle is something different, this takes alot longer, that is why people want a respec.
@2 dead in terms of relevance to the EVE universe. without proper EVE integration dust has less appeal.
@3 it takes less SP because you can do usefull stuff even with smaller amounts of SP. in dust you are pretty much handicapped in terms of what you can do with lower SP against people with higher SP because there is much less possible activities you have in an FPS. beside that, in EVE all weaponry support skills can be used for other weapons, unlike in dust where each weapon has its own set. |