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Magnus Amadeuss Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1131	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:09:00 - [1] - Quote Scouts... scouts everywhere. Seriously, has it been like this since the cloak got released? Seems like most of the enemy team/my team is always in scout suits. Fixing swarms
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4149	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:11:00 - [2] - Quote Was worse before. True story. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Echo 1991 WarRavens Capital Punishment. 480	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:13:00 - [3] - Quote its the extra equipment slot that makes scouts stupid. they shouldnt have an invisibility and a utility equipment. you shouldnt be able to logi in a scout suit either.
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 217	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:14:00 - [4] - Quote I mostly play Domination. Domination makes both teams fight in one spot instead of Skirmish have 4 to 5 Objectives and everyone running back and fourth. MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Magnus Amadeuss Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1131	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:14:00 - [5] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Was worse before. True story. Before? As in before 1.7? I don't remember this many scoutsfests pre-1.7. Or do you mean before present? Like 1.8 and 18.alpha-charlie? Fixing swarms
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17177	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:23:00 - [6] - Quote He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Assault Rifles =// Unlocked
Echo 1991 WarRavens Capital Punishment. 480	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:31:00 - [7] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. just make them reliant on the EWAR mods that they should be using so we dont get bricked scouts and take the extra equipment slot. Scouts should be squishy, fast little buggers that can get in, hack, get a quick kill or 2 if possible and get out fast or die in the process. Not lol look at me i have 700 armour and see everyone but i can only be seen by another scout lol.
XxVEXESxX 33	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:36:00 - [8] - Quote When tacs were op it was scout tac omg fotm pre 1.8. Now its scout cloak shotty/ bolt / breach scrp omg fotm since delta. So yea your playing the right game. PSN: XxVEXESxX Minmatar loyalist Dropsuit Upgrades level 5
Crazy Cat Lady Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 201	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:53:00 - [9] - Quote I hate scouts. Kill them all please.
Lloyd Orfay Commando Perkone Caldari State 58	Posted - 2014.10.08 22:05:00 - [10] - Quote There's a reason for my signature, and that reason is that I may be the only person to make a medic suit from my scout suits Important players help all, so until scout players start equipping mediguns they're as useful as afterbirths to me.

Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 360	Posted - 2014.10.08 22:21:00 - [11] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: There's a reason for my signature, and that reason is that I may be the only person to make a medic suit from my scout suits Believe me, I'd thought about this, but I don't have nanites to 5. Oh, would you think about that? 100% shield and armor restored to an ak.0 sentinel behind enemy lines. Give the Magsex some love.
Riruodo Templar Investigative Commission 338	Posted - 2014.10.08 22:32:00 - [12] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: There's a reason for my signature, and that reason is that I may be the only person to make a medic suit from my scout suits not the only one. I run kin-2 nanoinjector, and to keep my team mates fighting longer, pack an X-3 Quantum nanohive. Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor. - gaaaaaaay
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2776	Posted - 2014.10.08 22:53:00 - [13] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. just make them reliant on the EWAR mods that they should be using so we dont get bricked scouts and take the extra equipment slot. Scouts should be squishy, fast little buggers that can get in, hack, get a quick kill or 2 if possible and get out fast or die in the process. Not lol look at me i have 700 armour and see everyone but i can only be seen by another scout lol. This is how I use my scout suits. My favorite suit that I use 90% of the time has 302 total hit points and is 100% invisible on the mini-map to anyone else. Period. I skirt the edges of battle taking down unsuspecting reinforcements and CRU's/objectives when the enemy squads I can't overpower move out. I love this playstyle. EDIT: and no I don't use a shotgun ever. Dual SMG. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2776	Posted - 2014.10.08 22:56:00 - [14] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: There's a reason for my signature, and that reason is that I may be the only person to make a medic suit from my scout suits You're not. I always carry a needle with me - I view myself as a combat medic on the fringes of battle - kill the stragglers, and revive those left for dead. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4741	Posted - 2014.10.08 23:03:00 - [15] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. just make them reliant on the EWAR mods that they should be using so we dont get bricked scouts and take the extra equipment slot. Scouts should be squishy, fast little buggers that can get in, hack, get a quick kill or 2 if possible and get out fast or die in the process. Not lol look at me i have 700 armour and see everyone but i can only be seen by another scout lol. A Logi (Precison 45) with one Complex Precision Enhancer should see most Scouts that don't pack DampsGÇª Can't remember the exact numbers at this point, and my PS3 is to accessible at the moment. Assaults should be able to get Precision to 33.75 with one CPE If a Scout is running all Armour they are Tacnet visible to a lot more than people believe. This also means you can see Chevrons over their heads when they are Cloaked. KRRROOOOOOM
Echo 1991 WarRavens Capital Punishment. 487	Posted - 2014.10.08 23:10:00 - [16] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. just make them reliant on the EWAR mods that they should be using so we dont get bricked scouts and take the extra equipment slot. Scouts should be squishy, fast little buggers that can get in, hack, get a quick kill or 2 if possible and get out fast or die in the process. Not lol look at me i have 700 armour and see everyone but i can only be seen by another scout lol. A Logi (Precison 45) with one Complex Precision Enhancer should see most Scouts that don't pack DampsGÇª Can't remember the exact numbers at this point, and my PS3 is to accessible at the moment. Assaults should be able to get Precision to 33.75 with one CPE If a Scout is running all Armour they are Tacnet visible to a lot more than people believe. This also means you can see Chevrons over their heads when they are Cloaked. All scouts get down to 31.5 db with profile dampening at 5. so no you cant without 2, which lowers damage potential and if you shield tank HP. also assaults get to 36 db with a CPE, which isnt enough to pick up an undamped scout.
Riruodo Templar Investigative Commission 338	Posted - 2014.10.08 23:11:00 - [17] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. just make them reliant on the EWAR mods that they should be using so we dont get bricked scouts and take the extra equipment slot. Scouts should be squishy, fast little buggers that can get in, hack, get a quick kill or 2 if possible and get out fast or die in the process. Not lol look at me i have 700 armour and see everyone but i can only be seen by another scout lol. A Logi (Precison 45) with one Complex Precision Enhancer should see most Scouts that don't pack DampsGÇª Can't remember the exact numbers at this point, and my PS3 is to accessible at the moment. Assaults should be able to get Precision to 33.75 with one CPE If a Scout is running all Armour they are Tacnet visible to a lot more than people believe. This also means you can see Chevrons over their heads when they are Cloaked. unless they are the Galscout or Calscout. They have a passive bonus to dampening. I think they get to about 27 if you are at Gal/Cal scout lvl 5 and dampening at lvl 5. Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor. - gaaaaaaay
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2779	Posted - 2014.10.08 23:48:00 - [18] - Quote Riruodo wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. just make them reliant on the EWAR mods that they should be using so we dont get bricked scouts and take the extra equipment slot. Scouts should be squishy, fast little buggers that can get in, hack, get a quick kill or 2 if possible and get out fast or die in the process. Not lol look at me i have 700 armour and see everyone but i can only be seen by another scout lol. A Logi (Precison 45) with one Complex Precision Enhancer should see most Scouts that don't pack DampsGÇª Can't remember the exact numbers at this point, and my PS3 is to accessible at the moment. Assaults should be able to get Precision to 33.75 with one CPE If a Scout is running all Armour they are Tacnet visible to a lot more than people believe. This also means you can see Chevrons over their heads when they are Cloaked. unless they are the Galscout or Calscout. They have a passive bonus to dampening. I think they get to about 27 if you are at Gal/Cal scout lvl 5 and dampening at lvl 5. Plead the fifth. No reason to give out all of my "secrets" I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
Magnus Amadeuss Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1132	Posted - 2014.10.08 23:48:00 - [19] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. just make them reliant on the EWAR mods that they should be using so we dont get bricked scouts and take the extra equipment slot. Scouts should be squishy, fast little buggers that can get in, hack, get a quick kill or 2 if possible and get out fast or die in the process. Not lol look at me i have 700 armour and see everyone but i can only be seen by another scout lol. A Logi (Precison 45) with one Complex Precision Enhancer should see most Scouts that don't pack DampsGÇª Can't remember the exact numbers at this point, and my PS3 is to accessible at the moment. Assaults should be able to get Precision to 33.75 with one CPE If a Scout is running all Armour they are Tacnet visible to a lot more than people believe. This also means you can see Chevrons over their heads when they are Cloaked. All scouts get down to 31.5 db with profile dampening at 5. so no you cant without 2, which lowers damage potential and if you shield tank HP. also assaults get to 36 db with a CPE, which isnt enough to pick up an undamped scout. Therein lies the problem. Scouts are better at just way too many things. The things they are better at they are way too good at. I find pretty much no reason to use my Logistics A-1 suit at all (2 equipment slots....) rather than a scout. Scouts can: See far See well Not be seen on TACNET Not be seen visibly (kinda) All at the same time. This is a TREMENDOUS advantage, basically always having the initiative. Pair that with OHK weapons and greater mobility and no wonder they a FotM. Adding the versatility of a second equipment slot just adds insult to injury there. How do you fix it? IDK. The way the logi was nerfed made it so that active scanners became useless except on the gallente, so I am not keen on that method... or maybe just not a fan of SUCH a large discrepancy. Fixing swarms
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4745	Posted - 2014.10.08 23:50:00 - [20] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. just make them reliant on the EWAR mods that they should be using so we dont get bricked scouts and take the extra equipment slot. Scouts should be squishy, fast little buggers that can get in, hack, get a quick kill or 2 if possible and get out fast or die in the process. Not lol look at me i have 700 armour and see everyone but i can only be seen by another scout lol. A Logi (Precison 45) with one Complex Precision Enhancer should see most Scouts that don't pack DampsGÇª Can't remember the exact numbers at this point, and my PS3 is to accessible at the moment. Assaults should be able to get Precision to 33.75 with one CPE If a Scout is running all Armour they are Tacnet visible to a lot more than people believe. This also means you can see Chevrons over their heads when they are Cloaked. All scouts get down to 31.5 db with profile dampening at 5. so no you cant without 2, which lowers damage potential and if you shield tank HP. also assaults get to 36 db with a CPE, which isnt enough to pick up an undamped scout. Found some stuff put together for Charlie Profile rounds up to 32 and Logi hits 32GÇª proven that ties go to scannerGÇª Logi sees others on one Complex Profile. Not my work Yes you need two for Gal/Cal scouts KRRROOOOOOM

Magnus Amadeuss Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1132	Posted - 2014.10.09 00:27:00 - [21] - Quote Riruodo wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. just make them reliant on the EWAR mods that they should be using so we dont get bricked scouts and take the extra equipment slot. Scouts should be squishy, fast little buggers that can get in, hack, get a quick kill or 2 if possible and get out fast or die in the process. Not lol look at me i have 700 armour and see everyone but i can only be seen by another scout lol. A Logi (Precison 45) with one Complex Precision Enhancer should see most Scouts that don't pack DampsGÇª Can't remember the exact numbers at this point, and my PS3 is to accessible at the moment. Assaults should be able to get Precision to 33.75 with one CPE If a Scout is running all Armour they are Tacnet visible to a lot more than people believe. This also means you can see Chevrons over their heads when they are Cloaked. unless they are the Galscout or Calscout. They have a passive bonus to dampening. I think they get to about 27 if you are at Gal/Cal scout lvl 5 and dampening at lvl 5. You are right: Gal/cal scout get 26.5 dB @ lvl 5 in both, 20.08 dB with 1 cmplx, 15.71 with two advanced. Am/Min get 31.5 with lvl 5 dampening, 23.6 dB with one cmpl, 18.4865625 with two. Oh and an assault would get a 36 dB sensitivity with lvl 5 precision and 1 cmplx enhancer. Fixing swarms
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1093	Posted - 2014.10.09 00:31:00 - [22] - Quote Just dropping that second equipment slot would fix a lot. +1
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 362	Posted - 2014.10.09 01:13:00 - [23] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: Just dropping that second equipment slot would fix a lot. +1 So scouts can't cloak AND spam RE's. Man up for the RE's, or remain a coward under cloak. Give the Magsex some love.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2483	Posted - 2014.10.09 01:36:00 - [24] - Quote XxVEXESxX wrote: When tacs were op it was scout tac omg fotm pre 1.8. WTF are you talking about "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Atiim 12837	Posted - 2014.10.09 01:50:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: Every class has drawbacks, Scouts should be one of them. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
XxVEXESxX 34	Posted - 2014.10.26 03:59:00 - [26] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: XxVEXESxX wrote: When tacs were op it was scout tac omg fotm pre 1.8. WTF are you talking about Chromosome. PSN: XxVEXESxX Minmatar loyalist MK.0 A/C/L
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1371	Posted - 2014.10.26 06:33:00 - [27] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Scouts... scouts everywhere. Seriously, has it been like this since the cloak got released? Seems like most of the enemy team/my team is always in scout suits. indeed cause its literally scout514 atm with scout suits baught between 40k a 60k daily http://dust.thang.dk/market_historycategory.php <- right side dropdown menu, select dropsuits [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]


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