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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:09:00 -
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Scouts... scouts everywhere.
Seriously, has it been like this since the cloak got released? Seems like most of the enemy team/my team is always in scout suits.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1131
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:14:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Was worse before. True story.
Before? As in before 1.7? I don't remember this many scoutsfests pre-1.7.
Or do you mean before present? Like 1.8 and 18.alpha-charlie?
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1132
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:48:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. just make them reliant on the EWAR mods that they should be using so we dont get bricked scouts and take the extra equipment slot. Scouts should be squishy, fast little buggers that can get in, hack, get a quick kill or 2 if possible and get out fast or die in the process. Not lol look at me i have 700 armour and see everyone but i can only be seen by another scout lol. A Logi (Precison 45) with one Complex Precision Enhancer should see most Scouts that don't pack DampsGǪ Can't remember the exact numbers at this point, and my PS3 is to accessible at the moment. Assaults should be able to get Precision to 33.75 with one CPE If a Scout is running all Armour they are Tacnet visible to a lot more than people believe. This also means you can see Chevrons over their heads when they are Cloaked. All scouts get down to 31.5 db with profile dampening at 5. so no you cant without 2, which lowers damage potential and if you shield tank HP. also assaults get to 36 db with a CPE, which isnt enough to pick up an undamped scout.
Therein lies the problem.
Scouts are better at just way too many things. The things they are better at they are way too good at.
I find pretty much no reason to use my Logistics A-1 suit at all (2 equipment slots....) rather than a scout.
Scouts can:
See far
See well
Not be seen on TACNET
Not be seen visibly (kinda)
All at the same time. This is a TREMENDOUS advantage, basically always having the initiative. Pair that with OHK weapons and greater mobility and no wonder they a FotM. Adding the versatility of a second equipment slot just adds insult to injury there.
How do you fix it? IDK. The way the logi was nerfed made it so that active scanners became useless except on the gallente, so I am not keen on that method... or maybe just not a fan of SUCH a large discrepancy.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1132
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Posted - 2014.10.09 00:27:00 -
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Riruodo wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:He was referring to 1.8 until CCP Rattati started to tone them back down. just make them reliant on the EWAR mods that they should be using so we dont get bricked scouts and take the extra equipment slot. Scouts should be squishy, fast little buggers that can get in, hack, get a quick kill or 2 if possible and get out fast or die in the process. Not lol look at me i have 700 armour and see everyone but i can only be seen by another scout lol. A Logi (Precison 45) with one Complex Precision Enhancer should see most Scouts that don't pack DampsGǪ Can't remember the exact numbers at this point, and my PS3 is to accessible at the moment. Assaults should be able to get Precision to 33.75 with one CPE If a Scout is running all Armour they are Tacnet visible to a lot more than people believe. This also means you can see Chevrons over their heads when they are Cloaked. unless they are the Galscout or Calscout. They have a passive bonus to dampening. I think they get to about 27 if you are at Gal/Cal scout lvl 5 and dampening at lvl 5.
You are right:
Gal/cal scout get 26.5 dB @ lvl 5 in both, 20.08 dB with 1 cmplx, 15.71 with two advanced.
Am/Min get 31.5 with lvl 5 dampening, 23.6 dB with one cmpl, 18.4865625 with two.
Oh and an assault would get a 36 dB sensitivity with lvl 5 precision and 1 cmplx enhancer.
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