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CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 39	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:00:00 - [1] - Quote So, I have been working with a pilot doing orbitals recently, and I noticed that orbital strikes from eve ships seem to randomly fire between 1 and 4 shots per gun. This makes orbitals extremely difficult tactical assets to use because that quick strike to clear out the room for a speedy hack becomes a 32 gun laser light show that denies the strike zone to anyone for 15 seconds, and the hybrid strike that is supposed to kill that tank only fires 8 times and allows it to narrowly escape. The pilot says that the guns use only 1 shot per gun (sometimes less), and that they are all Tech 1 guns. We tested all 3 strike types, and they all have this error. Also there is an EVE side problem where sometimes it displays the name of the person who PREVIOUSLY called in a strike for all strike requests, so they can't accurately call in strikes from a specific person as they all say they are from the same person. It can even show people who aren't in the match, or ones that called in a strike on a previous day. I'd like to see a rundown of the orbital strike mechanics to see if this is something that can be made more consistent, or possibly useful. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18042	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:11:00 - [2] - Quote CeeJ Mantis wrote: Also there is an EVE side problem where sometimes it displays the name of the person who PREVIOUSLY called in a strike for all strike requests, so they can't accurately call in strikes from a specific person as they all say they are from the same person. It can even show people who aren't in the match, or ones that called in a strike on a previous day. This enrages me every time I try to do orbitals for a friendly group. "Squad lead is xXpotatolordXx" five xXpotatolordXxs on screen "Who the **** am I calling for?!" This lucky error has saved several forum nemeses from becoming my killmails. Nocturnal Soul, I'm looking at you. Also, killmails don't always appear even if you get the kills. I don't think you get any if the caller is kicked whilst striking, either. Orbital mechanics are really just wonky. The forums have ruined me.
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2776	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:42:00 - [3] - Quote Silly question about the number of shots fired: do the pilots stack the guns, or are they selecting each gun separately to fire? I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1346	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:52:00 - [4] - Quote CeeJ Mantis wrote: that quick strike to clear out the room for a speedy hack becomes a 32 gun laser light show that denies the strike zone to anyone for 15 seconds, 32 shot strike is just the pilot pressing the HATE! button. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1346	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:53:00 - [5] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Silly question about the number of shots fired: do the pilots stack the guns, or are they selecting each gun separately to fire? Most pilots stack the guns, it's just easier to press f1 rather than roll your fingers across f1-f8 in a brief interval. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 39	Posted - 2014.10.08 21:58:00 - [6] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Silly question about the number of shots fired: do the pilots stack the guns, or are they selecting each gun separately to fire? 1 group, so they are stacked Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2776	Posted - 2014.10.08 22:09:00 - [7] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Silly question about the number of shots fired: do the pilots stack the guns, or are they selecting each gun separately to fire? Most pilots stack the guns, it's just easier to press f1 rather than roll your fingers across f1-f8 in a brief interval. I've played Eve for 7ish years. I know players who have played as long and still don't stack. Given that FW involves pilots in destroyers that may be Dust players who never played Eve before, I think this was a valid question. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 54	Posted - 2014.10.09 19:33:00 - [8] - Quote Can we please get some CPM or dev input, we've posted several times about this and our group doesnt do video capture, so it's not possible for us to provide direct proof. Do fw orbitals for a game or two and you'll see Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 983	Posted - 2014.10.09 19:38:00 - [9] - Quote most FW orbitals are delivered by a players EVE alt. nothing more.. [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 2 Forum Pariah
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 54	Posted - 2014.10.09 20:06:00 - [10] - Quote @ za'ki or maybe it's eve players who started dust in closed beta, or MAYBE it's just an eve player.... Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ

REDBACK96USMC Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 99	Posted - 2014.10.09 20:17:00 - [11] - Quote Number and type of turrets fit to ship/firing would be useful information. If he is dropping multiple types of orbitals then it stands to reason he has less of one turret and more of the other. I would think, say a Comorant with 6 rail and 2 laser would drop a massive hybrid strike and a tiny laser strike. (size = rounds fired downrange) On top of that you have the Type specific features i.e. Laser being focused to a smaller map area but more deadly. Hybrid a wide map area and medium damage and EMP a very wide Map area with shield damage only.
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 489	Posted - 2014.10.09 20:17:00 - [12] - Quote I should reactivate to provide orbital support
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 54	Posted - 2014.10.09 20:21:00 - [13] - Quote The fit we were running was a coercer, 3 laser, 4 hybrid, 1projectile. One issue is that the 4 hybrids APPEAR to drop a different number of shots each time. 4...7...12??!! Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
CeeJ Mantis Mantodea MC 41	Posted - 2014.10.09 20:40:00 - [14] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: The fit we were running was a coercer, 3 laser, 4 hybrid, 1projectile. One issue is that the 4 hybrids APPEAR to drop a different number of shots each time. 4...7...12??!! It is also inconsistent with the laser and hybrid strikes. This inconsistency was originally noticed with an 8 laser ship that seemed to fire for WAY too long, and subsequent orbitals with that ship also had inconsistent firing numbers of 1-4 shots per cannon. For instance the 3 lasers will fire 3, 6, 9, or 12 shots. The 4 hybrid will fire between 4, 8, 12, or 16 shots, and the 1 EMP will fire 1, 2, 3, or 4 shots. It seems random as to how many it fires. Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17190	Posted - 2014.10.09 20:46:00 - [15] - Quote This warrants further investigation. Forwarding up. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Assault Rifles =// Unlocked
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 56	Posted - 2014.10.09 20:57:00 - [16] - Quote Many thanks IWS, Also the name glitch that appears on eve, eg "ceej mantis" calls in first strike, eve targeting shows; gallente picture, "ceej mantis" name and his corp ticker abbreviation. Later I call in a strike (same district or not); targeting shows, caldari picture?! "ceej mantis'" name!? BUT it seems to always show the correct corp abbreviations Thanks for ur continuing hard work, I hope this proves helpful and the fix is easy Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17191	Posted - 2014.10.09 21:16:00 - [17] - Quote Also one quick thing if you guys can provide it Eve Time Stamp Date Pilot Name District This type of info would help at least get the people responsible looking at the moment of failure and will hopefully narrow down what did and did not go down between dust and eve. And thank you for bringing it up, FW has not been launching for me lately. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Assault Rifles =// Unlocked
Middas Betancore Kirjuun Heiian 56	Posted - 2014.10.09 21:22:00 - [18] - Quote I shall seek such information and post here Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ


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