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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:00:00 -
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So, I have been working with a pilot doing orbitals recently, and I noticed that orbital strikes from eve ships seem to randomly fire between 1 and 4 shots per gun. This makes orbitals extremely difficult tactical assets to use because that quick strike to clear out the room for a speedy hack becomes a 32 gun laser light show that denies the strike zone to anyone for 15 seconds, and the hybrid strike that is supposed to kill that tank only fires 8 times and allows it to narrowly escape. The pilot says that the guns use only 1 shot per gun (sometimes less), and that they are all Tech 1 guns. We tested all 3 strike types, and they all have this error.
Also there is an EVE side problem where sometimes it displays the name of the person who PREVIOUSLY called in a strike for all strike requests, so they can't accurately call in strikes from a specific person as they all say they are from the same person. It can even show people who aren't in the match, or ones that called in a strike on a previous day.
I'd like to see a rundown of the orbital strike mechanics to see if this is something that can be made more consistent, or possibly useful.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18042
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:11:00 -
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CeeJ Mantis wrote:
Also there is an EVE side problem where sometimes it displays the name of the person who PREVIOUSLY called in a strike for all strike requests, so they can't accurately call in strikes from a specific person as they all say they are from the same person. It can even show people who aren't in the match, or ones that called in a strike on a previous day.
This enrages me every time I try to do orbitals for a friendly group.
"Squad lead is xXpotatolordXx"
*five xXpotatolordXxs on screen*
"Who the **** am I calling for?!"
This lucky error has saved several forum nemeses from becoming my killmails. Nocturnal Soul, I'm looking at you.
Also, killmails don't always appear even if you get the kills. I don't think you get any if the caller is kicked whilst striking, either.
Orbital mechanics are really just wonky.
The forums have ruined me.
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Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
2776
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:42:00 -
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Silly question about the number of shots fired: do the pilots stack the guns, or are they selecting each gun separately to fire?
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1346
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:52:00 -
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CeeJ Mantis wrote:that quick strike to clear out the room for a speedy hack becomes a 32 gun laser light show that denies the strike zone to anyone for 15 seconds,
32 shot strike is just the pilot pressing the HATE! button.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1346
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:53:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Silly question about the number of shots fired: do the pilots stack the guns, or are they selecting each gun separately to fire?
Most pilots stack the guns, it's just easier to press f1 rather than roll your fingers across f1-f8 in a brief interval.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
39
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:58:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Silly question about the number of shots fired: do the pilots stack the guns, or are they selecting each gun separately to fire?
1 group, so they are stacked
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
2776
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Posted - 2014.10.08 22:09:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Silly question about the number of shots fired: do the pilots stack the guns, or are they selecting each gun separately to fire? Most pilots stack the guns, it's just easier to press f1 rather than roll your fingers across f1-f8 in a brief interval.
I've played Eve for 7ish years. I know players who have played as long and still don't stack. Given that FW involves pilots in destroyers that may be Dust players who never played Eve before, I think this was a valid question.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
54
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:33:00 -
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Can we please get some CPM or dev input, we've posted several times about this and our group doesnt do video capture, so it's not possible for us to provide direct proof. Do fw orbitals for a game or two and you'll see
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
983
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:38:00 -
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most FW orbitals are delivered by a players EVE alt. nothing more..
[[LogiBro in Training]]
Level 2 Forum Pariah
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
54
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:06:00 -
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@ za'ki or maybe it's eve players who started dust in closed beta, or MAYBE it's just an eve player....
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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REDBACK96USMC
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
99
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:17:00 -
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Number and type of turrets fit to ship/firing would be useful information.
If he is dropping multiple types of orbitals then it stands to reason he has less of one turret and more of the other.
I would think, say a Comorant with 6 rail and 2 laser would drop a massive hybrid strike and a tiny laser strike. (size = rounds fired downrange)
On top of that you have the Type specific features i.e. Laser being focused to a smaller map area but more deadly. Hybrid a wide map area and medium damage and EMP a very wide Map area with shield damage only.
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RayRay James
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
489
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:17:00 -
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I should reactivate to provide orbital support |
Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
54
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:21:00 -
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The fit we were running was a coercer, 3 laser, 4 hybrid, 1projectile.
One issue is that the 4 hybrids APPEAR to drop a different number of shots each time. 4...7...12??!!
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
41
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:40:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:The fit we were running was a coercer, 3 laser, 4 hybrid, 1projectile.
One issue is that the 4 hybrids APPEAR to drop a different number of shots each time. 4...7...12??!!
It is also inconsistent with the laser and hybrid strikes. This inconsistency was originally noticed with an 8 laser ship that seemed to fire for WAY too long, and subsequent orbitals with that ship also had inconsistent firing numbers of 1-4 shots per cannon.
For instance the 3 lasers will fire 3, 6, 9, or 12 shots. The 4 hybrid will fire between 4, 8, 12, or 16 shots, and the 1 EMP will fire 1, 2, 3, or 4 shots. It seems random as to how many it fires.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17190
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:46:00 -
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This warrants further investigation. Forwarding up.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Assault Rifles =// Unlocked
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
56
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:57:00 -
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Many thanks IWS,
Also the name glitch that appears on eve, eg
"ceej mantis" calls in first strike, eve targeting shows; gallente picture, "ceej mantis" name and his corp ticker abbreviation.
Later I call in a strike (same district or not); targeting shows, caldari picture?! "ceej mantis'" name!? BUT it seems to always show the correct corp abbreviations
Thanks for ur continuing hard work, I hope this proves helpful and the fix is easy
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17191
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Posted - 2014.10.09 21:16:00 -
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Also one quick thing if you guys can provide it
Eve Time Stamp
Date
Pilot Name
District
This type of info would help at least get the people responsible looking at the moment of failure and will hopefully narrow down what did and did not go down between dust and eve.
And thank you for bringing it up, FW has not been launching for me lately.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Assault Rifles =// Unlocked
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
56
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Posted - 2014.10.09 21:22:00 -
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I shall seek such information and post here
Caldari Scout/Sent/Asst/Logi/Cmdo- Closed Beta Player
Born, raised and trained under the shadow of Kaalakiota Corp HQ
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