While it is interesting, it's certainly not as useful as seeing things like data pulled usage of certain modules as we frequently see in Eve Online.

We hear this vague concept of 'data' constantly whenever it's being referred to in balancing but for all we (the players) know, it might as well have just been made up to support an argument. We don't see charts or spreadsheets showing all the information of how much 'x' weapon is used compared to 'y' weapon, let alone suit types - which would be particularly handy in the eventuality that we ever have an argument of say, one particular module (Armor Plates) being used on one particular suit-type (Scouts) as opposed to another suit-type (Assaults) and the effectiveness there-in.

Clearly, CCP has this data as they frequently mention it whenever the need to establish an argument for any seemingly justifiable reason that one can be gullible enough to immediately accept as fact .

The flaw here is that, without evidence, numbers, rhyme, or reason to support the mention of said data... There's no reason for us to actually believe it.

Based on the data I've seen, I have a kill/death ratio of somewhere in the 10,000 / 1 range. I've also got 125% accuracy. But you can't possibly know that because I'm not supplying any hardcore evidence that this data is anything more than a frivolous allegation. I hate to sound like I'm being a ***** about it but, really, what CCP considers justifiable reasoning in data might be completely different to what the community thinks.

is there a mechanic in place for reducing dispersion? what state offers the least dispersion and most dispersion?

is there a method to reduce kick?

if both dispersion and recoil play a role in over all accuracy, what would be the best way to improve overall accuracy?

1) CCP has data
2) CCP doesn't have any data

Let's give CCP the benefit of the doubt, and state that 1) is true. Then we have

3) The data says one thing and CCP lies to the community, under no duress, to provide a cover story for a change CCP wants to implement
4) The data says one thing and CCP tells the truth to the community, and then attempts to use the data to improve the situation

For every crime, there must be a motive. What is CCP's motive (or frankly mine) to do 3)?

Especially when, since you linked to the Bolt Pistol discussion, CCP states that the data is in full correlation with what the community thinks (BP is OP) and uses that fact to fix the situation via a Bolt Pistol ROF nerf?

1) CCP has data
2) CCP doesn't have any data

Let's give CCP the benefit of the doubt, and state that 1) is true. Then we have

3) The data says one thing and CCP lies to the community, under no duress, to provide a cover story for a change CCP wants to implement
4) The data says one thing and CCP tells the truth to the community, and then attempts to use the data to improve the situation

For every crime, there must be a motive. What is CCP's motive (or frankly mine) to do 3)?

Especially when, since you linked to the Bolt Pistol discussion, CCP states that the data is in full correlation with what the community thinks (BP is OP) and uses that fact to fix the situation via a Bolt Pistol ROF nerf?

1) CCP has data
2) CCP doesn't have any data

Let's give CCP the benefit of the doubt, and state that 1) is true. Then we have

3) The data says one thing and CCP lies to the community, under no duress, to provide a cover story for a change CCP wants to implement
4) The data says one thing and CCP tells the truth to the community, and then attempts to use the data to improve the situation

For every crime, there must be a motive. What is CCP's motive (or frankly mine) to do 3)?

Especially when, since you linked to the Bolt Pistol discussion, CCP states that the data is in full correlation with what the community thinks (BP is OP) and uses that fact to fix the situation via a Bolt Pistol ROF nerf?

The only thing I learnt from this article was: CCP loves numbers.

Interesting to read how all the hidden mechanics work though. There are a lot of parameters that can be adjusted behiind the scenes. Also, why do you bother having a mechanic like 'dispersion decay'? Is it to model some kind of inertial force when firing a gun?

First of all, thanks very much, I enjoyed the read.



Very interesting. So if I'm interpreting correctly, zooming in on far-off targets with the HMG to try and decrease dispersion has absolutely no effect, other than whatever benefit is gained in order to track the enemy in your reticle? I ask because ADSing with the HMG has a slightly longer animation than with other weapons, and being in ADS has a detrimental effect on your peripheral vision -- I'm sure I've died more than once because of that.

Also, since I'm always running as a fatboy, I should refrain running over to enemy heavies and start blasting -- whenever possible, I should let that dude come to me instead?

loving the data and the graph, but it really shows that the gallente assault bonus should be changed.

How can you come to that conclusion based on this data? The spreadsheet provides no information about Kick (recoil), which is much more of a factor with the Plasma Rifles.

Kick is not lowered. Dispersion is. And the data shows that dispersion on the assault rifle isn't high so why have a bonus that lowers an already small value?

Keep in mind the values you see are for firing while stationary. Movement adds state multipliers that increase dispersion.

Keep in mind the values you see are for firing while stationary. Movement adds state multipliers that increase dispersion.

Keep in mind the values you see are for firing while stationary. Movement adds state multipliers that increase dispersion.

If we didn't have dispersion decay, then there would be no way for dispersion to decrease. Effectively as you fired your gun, it would get more and more inaccurate the more you fired it without any means to recover accuracy. The reason we have a curve is so that we can choose to have dispersion decay (recover could be an accurate term to replace it) faster or slower if you're got higher dispersion. Just gives us more control of how the weapon handles.

Thanks for the reply. Interesting to learn. So when we stop firing does dispersion automatically reset to the base value, or is the dispersion decay 'rate' still in effect? I would expect a gun to get more inaccurate the more it's fired. To recover accuracy, just stop firing and then start again?

Gallente aren't about strafing while shooting. Minmatar are

An armor stacked Gallente won't strafe a lot because he'll be slow at it. He'd use his armor pool to soak up damage while out-DPSing his target. A typical Gallente would gain much more from a speedier recovery of dispersion from sprinting, since he'll have to sprint everywhere due to his armor penalty. But then the recovery from sprint is so fast that it's no issue anyways.

I'm aware that this is sort of offtopic, but I'm trying to demonstrate how these stats can be used to improve the racial affiliation of the rifles.

so in theory...... with gall assault 5. ar operation/sharpshooter 5 and ion pistol operation 5 and sharpshooter 5........form hip-fire.....they would be the most accurate weapons in the game......going form actual use here. my gall assault is more accurate than any other suit I throw an ar/ion pistol onto.