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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.10.08 14:05:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Wow has respecs though.
WoW has a capped number of skill points. Whereas in EVE/DUST, you simply gain more skill points if you want new roles and skills.
501st Headstrong wrote:Soraya- Would it be possible to do an inventory reboot? All isk for the suits given to you while officer gear/rare items/Aurum items are kept??
Technically? Probably. But such a process would take a lot of time out of dev work, and it'd be prone to errors happening. And it'd be a one-time fix, rather than a long-term solution.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.10.08 14:36:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Bringing up this because it is one thing that might bring me back to the game at some point. Although the game is pretty balanced now (and then there isn't a concrete FoTM people would spec into with a respec) and I have some millions I don't use in any way, I'm good with the choices I've made. So it's a no for me.
I don't think a respec would make anyone want to play it is the journey not the destination that keeps players playing. You talk about the game being balanced jesus I am glad I didn't play before. There are clear front runners and many weapons like the AR for instance are left with no redeeming qualities. The front runners the CR and RR have a higher Range with little or no factors to make up for there lazer like accuracy or amazing rate of fire. The biggest mark on the game is of course the way scout preforms with seemingly no concern or acknowledgment of a problem. Ineffecual attempts or incompetence I don't know which all I know is it would be so much nicer to be able to play what ever way you wanted instead of this mmo monthly min max marathon that so many mmo's seem to orchestrate.
New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1937
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Posted - 2014.10.08 15:26:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:no and the only reasons will be: everyone will skill into FOTM or stick with the choices you made
No, and these are actual reasons.
Now with more evil.
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Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
3368
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Posted - 2014.10.08 22:35:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:The True Inferno wrote:Yes, after the hoxfixs though Here's the problem: The hotfixes should never end. World of Warcraft is about to celebrate it's tenth anniversary, and they're still regularly tweaking the balance between classes almost every patch. People need to stop thinking they're entitled to a redo every month and learn to adapt to new gameplay.
World of Warcraft is a really bad example in this situation, seeing as they can have as many respecs as they want whenever they want it. That probably has something to do with the constantly changing balance, as you so said.
On the topic of the thread, I believe we should give respecs specifically to skills that have changed drastically. My Gallente Sentinel was awesome with that 1/4 slot layout, and while it is far from useless now, it isn't what I spec'd into anymore, and that's just not cool. I imagine people who skilled Caldari scout probably feel the same way, so on and so forth.
SP Sinks? Fixed.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
486
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:01:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:no and the only reasons will be: everyone will skill into FOTM or stick with the choices you made No, and these are actual reasons.
They arent. my choices didnt matter when they changed my suits bonuses and my guns damage or my equipment. and everyone skilling into FOTM is an assumption. it helps players who started out without help more than anything. if you have 40+ million SP you probably got what you want anyway and most likely have FOTM if you skill into every month. Make it a once a year thing and it isnt a problem. People then have to stick with them choices and because it should be balanced after the bulk of hotfixes are done, there wont be FOTM and no reason not to give respecs. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1245
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Posted - 2014.10.09 00:50:00 -
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Hell , there is no FOTM now and if so please tell what it is ????
Guns are being worked on out of admittance from CCP so there is no clear cut , no ... there isn't any FOTM anymore .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1245
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Posted - 2014.10.09 00:52:00 -
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People need to step up their excuse game because there just isn't any anymore .
Just a bunch of people who don't give a rat's @$$ about the " fun factor " for anyone else but themselves .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2181
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Posted - 2014.10.09 00:56:00 -
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Still wondering how many SP you've accumulated since the first time you posted in a respec thread.
C'mon, you can share the number with us, I bet it is well over 1 million.
The Universe is hostile, so impersonal
Devour to survive
So it is, so it's always been....
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1054
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Posted - 2014.10.09 01:02:00 -
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Everyone would just spec into caldari scout easy mode.
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1245
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Posted - 2014.10.09 01:53:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Still wondering how many SP you've accumulated since the first time you posted in a respec thread.
C'mon, you can share the number with us, I bet it is well over 1 million.
Didn't you run for CPM ???
I see now , why you didn't get elected .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Miokai Zahou
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
403
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Posted - 2014.10.09 02:28:00 -
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Ahhhhh the respec thread number 394847648286477474782784....
Short answer: no.
Long answer: use the search function for the same damn answers given. Oh and earn your damn SP like everyone else does.
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
2896
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Posted - 2014.10.09 07:01:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Bringing up this because it is one thing that might bring me back to the game at some point. Although the game is pretty balanced now (and then there isn't a concrete FoTM people would spec into with a respec) and I have some millions I don't use in any way, I'm good with the choices I've made.
So it's a no for me.
This response is selfish and not constructive in the discussion.
"The DUST 514 Dev Team is not reduced or affected by the restructuring at CCP."
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1245
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Posted - 2014.10.09 13:13:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Bringing up this because it is one thing that might bring me back to the game at some point. Although the game is pretty balanced now (and then there isn't a concrete FoTM people would spec into with a respec) and I have some millions I don't use in any way, I'm good with the choices I've made.
So it's a no for me. This response is selfish and not constructive in the discussion.
I know , it's the simple case of ... " it doesn't effect me one way or another but just because of that , I don't care about your experience ... as long as I'm loving it and having fun frack off ."
I just don't understand that and it shows those who care nothing about the community as a whole .
Doesn't effect them in any way and their happy with where there at but yet instill , they still won't back those whom these changes are effecting .
They give all types of lame @$$ excuses , most are the same one's that just don't hold any weight anymore .
Can't say live with my choices , if things are constantly changing and you speck into something .. only to see it change as soon as your invested .
Can't talk about FOTM anymore because the balancing has all but eliminated that from happening again .
I ask what is FOTM now and still , no one answers because there is none , can't talk about items that CCP admitted themselves ... they will work on because they noticed the problem , so there is no more FOTM .
Just a bunch of bitter and mad players ( Are you all that unhappy in your personal lives ? ) that don't want anyone else to enjoy themselves and for those who won't be following CCP on their voyage in legion , this is the only and last chance to play this game and there stuck in limbo .
How the hell can they enjoy this $h!T ???
I just don't understand CCP for the most part when it comes to this topic , they can sell refunds on a three day timer like boosters , that way there not pressed to do the refund and they can make money ( As long as they are not pricing themselves out of such but knowing them , it will be expensive and they would have shoot themselves in the foot once again ) and it can be a win .. win for the most part .
I'm not following and if they do make something , no matter what it is for the PS4 , I will remember how I was treated while playing Dust and they won't get my support .
I can sit back and play Tom Clancy's The Division , they have drones and all the goodies .
It's more based on real world physics and all the good stuff , not some " futuristic land somewhere " but I'm not knocking Dust , just the mismanagement of this company .
I will support them and give them every cent that I would have given CCP .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.10.09 14:00:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:They should but everyone will say no and the only reasons will be: everyone will skill into FOTM or stick with the choices you made. Which aren't actual reasons. actually they are as if people got respecs they will all skill into cal scout suit casue its OP as hell and mroe vertile and stronger then assault AND other scout suits.
You mean the Gal scout? |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2014.10.09 14:15:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Still wondering how many SP you've accumulated since the first time you posted in a respec thread.
C'mon, you can share the number with us, I bet it is well over 1 million. Didn't you run for CPM ??? I see now , why you didn't get elected .
lolno, I didn't.
IDK that you could pay me to deal with that bullshit, though I am confident that I could do as good (if not better) than some of the more vocal members of the CPM.
Avoiding the question isn't answering it.
The Universe is hostile, so impersonal
Devour to survive
So it is, so it's always been....
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
649
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Posted - 2014.10.10 08:01:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:The True Inferno wrote:Yes, after the hoxfixs though Here's the problem: The hotfixes should never end. World of Warcraft is about to celebrate it's tenth anniversary, and they're still regularly tweaking the balance between classes almost every patch. People need to stop thinking they're entitled to a redo every month and learn to adapt to new gameplay.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
2899
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Posted - 2014.10.10 08:46:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The True Inferno wrote:Yes, after the hoxfixs though Here's the problem: The hotfixes should never end. World of Warcraft is about to celebrate it's tenth anniversary, and they're still regularly tweaking the balance between classes almost every patch. People need to stop thinking they're entitled to a redo every month and learn to adapt to new gameplay. End of thread.
Indeed. Soraya has a very good point here. WoW get respecs all the time, and even have respecs payed with ingame currency. This is probably why the game still lives. 
SOURCE: http://www.wowwiki.com/Respec#Re-spec
In WoW, you can even have dual talent specializations, i.e. two builds that you can instantenously switch in between. CCP is so far behind Blizzard in this regard.
SOURCE: http://wowpedia.org/Dual_Talent_Specialization
"The DUST 514 Dev Team is not reduced or affected by the restructuring at CCP."
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farmer 88
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.10.10 14:58:00 -
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Respec , New year's gift. Yes please
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
4116
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:13:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Still wondering how many SP you've accumulated since the first time you posted in a respec thread.
C'mon, you can share the number with us, I bet it is well over 1 million.
This is why I have no sympathy for respec cry threads. Some of the same people are crying after they've gained five or six million SP from passive gain alone, not even counting if they've been playing the game. Respec posters are simply crying about a game mechanic they don't understand, and refusing to wrap their heads around the way it works.
Spectral Clone wrote:Indeed. Soraya has a very good point here. WoW get respecs all the time, and even have respecs payed for with ingame currency. This is probably why the game still lives. In WoW, you can even have dual talent specializations, i.e. two builds that you can instantenously switch in-between. CCP is so far behind Blizzard in this regard.
The difference is, as explained earlier in the thread already, is that WoW has a capped skillset. You can't expand past that skillset, only change it out for another one. That design of a skill system intends respecs to exist, which is why they always have.
DUST uses an infinite skill system, you can always get new roles and new abilities. A respec actually breaks the entire design of that game mechanic. Respecs should never happen in a system where skill points are constantly being gained.
Additionally, respecs in WoW aren't there for when you cry about an ability being nerfed. Because respecs only really offer the ability in WoW to switch between entirely different roles. Like whether your paladin is a tank, a damage dealer, or a healer. If you're a damage dealer, and you get nerfed, you're still nerfed.
Accept your nerf, learn to deal. Adapt.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
2903
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:16:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:
DUST uses an infinite skill system
You lost me there fair sir.
*Drinks imperial stout, nibbles on fermented cheese and puts on my monocle*
"The DUST 514 Dev Team is not reduced or affected by the restructuring at CCP."
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
362
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Posted - 2014.10.10 21:22:00 -
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No.
Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1184
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Posted - 2014.10.10 23:57:00 -
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Yes. I want respecs.
I'd love to see a respec right now, just to roflcopter at all the Scouts that would suddenly manifest themselves into existence.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
363
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Posted - 2014.10.11 04:34:00 -
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Did I already say No in this one yet? Oh, look..
Cool. Just making sure.
Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
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