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valad II
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Posted - 2014.10.05 20:56:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:700+ eHP with a tiny hitbox is better than having 1200 HP and a huge hitbox. This is getting out of hand.
Yes you can. Run 2complex damps. They obviously arent running Ewar mods. Be stealth & shotgun them to the back of the head.
G-1 Series Scout
2complex damps
1 Complex Kincat
2 Complex Precision Enhancers
K5 Spec. Shotgun
TLO ( I think) Scrambler pistol or the Breach is hiting them Cald. pretty hard now too.
Adv Cloak
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Posted - 2014.10.05 21:07:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:valad II wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:700+ eHP with a tiny hitbox is better than having 1200 HP and a huge hitbox. This is getting out of hand. Yes you can. Run 2complex damps. They obviously arent running Ewar mods. Be stealth & shotgun them to the back of the head. G-1 Series Scout 2complex damps 1 Complex Kincat 2 Complex Precision Enhancers K5 Spec. Shotgun TLO ( I think) Scrambler pistol or the Breach is hiting them Cald. pretty hard now too. Adv Cloak Compact Nano Best counter is the counter itself eh?
For that situation probably. It is best to move undected. Unless you run into a gal logi running proto scanner. |
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Posted - 2014.10.05 22:33:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:valad II wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:700+ eHP with a tiny hitbox is better than having 1200 HP and a huge hitbox. This is getting out of hand. Yes you can. Run 2complex damps. They obviously arent running Ewar mods. Be stealth & shotgun them to the back of the head. G-1 Series Scout 2complex damps 1 Complex Kincat 2 Complex Precision Enhancers K5 Spec. Shotgun TLO ( I think) Scrambler pistol or the Breach is hiting them Cald. pretty hard now too. Adv Cloak Compact Nano So when everyone cried about the main dropship counter being another dropship...
That argument doesn't even make sense. I never heard that. Dropships can be countered by any numerous AV tactics. Forges are my favorite. Swarms are pretty fun now. |
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Posted - 2014.10.05 22:45:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:valad II wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:700+ eHP with a tiny hitbox is better than having 1200 HP and a huge hitbox. This is getting out of hand. Yes you can. Run 2complex damps. They obviously arent running Ewar mods. Be stealth & shotgun them to the back of the head. G-1 Series Scout 2complex damps 1 Complex Kincat 2 Complex Precision Enhancers K5 Spec. Shotgun TLO ( I think) Scrambler pistol or the Breach is hiting them Cald. pretty hard now too. Adv Cloak Compact Nano So when everyone cried about the main dropship counter being another dropship... The whole "counter to something is itself" dilemma gets a wrench thrown into it when you realize that in order for that to apply here, in this contex, vlad II would have had to recommend a 700+ eHP scout. I could be wrong, but damps/kincats/precision mods do not modify HP values (you know, with them being biotics and eWAR mods instead of shields/armour). And last time I checked... Tanked scout =/= Completely untanked scout. Unless, of course, one places all scouts as being equal, regardless of DUSTs entire fitting system. But then that begs the question as to why one would single out a specific scout fitting, when fittings are irrelevant...
Counter to scout with 700+hp is not another scout with 700+hp. A counter would be dampening and precision, with speed. Thats why it is called a counter. |
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Posted - 2014.10.05 23:00:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:valad II wrote:Counter to scout with 700+hp is not another scout with 700+hp. A counter would be dampening and precision, with speed. Thats why it is called a counter. The counter to paper is not paper, the counter to rock isn't rock, the counter to scissors isn't more ******* scissors. Your argument is invalid.
WOW all this bullsh!t you spew and you dont provide one answer. Good job. Real productive.
You saying my argument is invalid because of paper, rock, scissors doesn't prove that my argument is infact invalid. More less proves my point because you provide sh!t else of evidence or solutions. Nice fallacy you provided. |
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Posted - 2014.10.05 23:02:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur, I apologize. I misread it. |
valad II
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Posted - 2014.10.05 23:39:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:valad II wrote:Counter to scout with 700+hp is not another scout with 700+hp. A counter would be dampening and precision, with speed. Thats why it is called a counter. The counter to paper is not paper, the counter to rock isn't rock, the counter to scissors isn't more ******* scissors. Your argument is invalid. depends.. if your talking ORE.. then diamond as an ORE can break all other rock :P
Sharmin butthole paper or heavy duty construction paper that has complex armor plates? I like sharmin, it doesn't leave any dingle berries. |
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Posted - 2014.10.05 23:48:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:valad II wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:valad II wrote:Counter to scout with 700+hp is not another scout with 700+hp. A counter would be dampening and precision, with speed. Thats why it is called a counter. The counter to paper is not paper, the counter to rock isn't rock, the counter to scissors isn't more ******* scissors. Your argument is invalid. depends.. if your talking ORE.. then diamond as an ORE can break all other rock :P Sharmin butthole paper or heavy duty construction paper that has complex armor plates? I like sharmin, it doesn't leave any dingle berries. you mean compacted cardboard (thick paper) vs 2 ply toilet paper.. what will win? :P
Depends on if compacted sees the 2ply coming for him. 2 ply is squishy but dampened. I love an underdog. money is onthe 2ply butt paper. |
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Posted - 2014.10.05 23:49:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Depends.. if your talking ORE.. then diamond as an ORE can break all other rock :P Let's not get technical here Apoth. We will lose valad  I tried to use simple terms, but it gave him an aneurysm. Let's have a meaningful conversation about the scout and assault role. Scouts need a light weapon, they need ewar, and cloaks. Those things make them fit neatly into their role as opportunistic ambush/recon. What they don't need is the ability to fit 700+ eHP. As a scout, tell me what would be a good way to prevent this kind of behavior. As an assault, I don't want better ewar, cloaking bonuses, or insane walk/sprint speeds. I don't want to infringe on the scout role. Can we change the assault dropsuits to make them better at their role? well id say scout needs -1 equipment and assault needs +1 edit. only if amarr and caldari logi get +1 equipment at standard level to bring them to 3
I could totally agree with getting rid of the scouts 2nd equip slot. Sacrifice. |
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Posted - 2014.10.05 23:53:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:valad II wrote:
you mean compacted cardboard (thick paper) vs 2 ply toilet paper.. what will win? :P
Depends on if compacted sees the 2ply coming for him. 2 ply is squishy but dampened. I love an underdog. money is onthe 2ply butt paper.
depending on the saturation of the 2ply it should be thrown against the cardboard and eventually could weaken the area and it would have a structural failure[/quote]
LOL now I just gotta say what? I am not catching the comparisons. Fun while it lasted. |
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Posted - 2014.10.06 00:04:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Apothecary wrote:well id say scout needs -1 equipment and assault needs +1
edit.
only if amarr and caldari logi get +1 equipment at standard level to bring them to 3 That prevents scouts from being mini logis. How does that keep them from fitting massive tanks? Not saying it is a bad change, just playing devil's advocate.
Why shouldnt they be able to tank if they wish too. Then they are slow and unable to run precision or damps. They are sacrificing that for tanking. |
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Posted - 2014.10.06 07:46:00 -
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All the bitching about Scouts brick tanking is hilarious. Especially when you have scrubs running around in Sent. GKO's with Kali rail rifles. All the roof top camping going on, makes me not give a sh!t about all the bitczhes complaining about scouts even more.
Just tonight I took my Amarr Scout AKO and brick tanked the hell out of him. Stood right in front of a heavy and shot him 3 times. Buh bye heavy. Still able to cloak up and disappear. Call me a scrub, I dont give a flying Fuk. Get the fuk off the roofs. This isn't Nintendos Duck Hunt. |
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