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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:40:00 -
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1. The bolt pistol:
I agree.
The bolt pistol was an unremarkable weapon pre-Delta, but it was by no means a bad one. Underused, yes - but not so much that it required such a large series of buffs. Moody has an excellent video extolling the virtues of the pre-Delta bolt pistol. It was an adequate weapon.
A small buff might have been in order. A 70% damage buff and a much increased headshot multiplier, even if the clip size was reduced, does not count as a small buff. That's insane. There are very, very few weapons which have been buffed by that much, if any. I can't recall any others off the top of my head apart from perhaps the Chromosome TAR to the Uprising TAR.
2. Regarding Mu data and squads:
Again, I completely agree. Squads make or break battles. They have a -huge- effect on the tide of battle. A squad of militiaberries who know what they're doing can quite happily take solo proto players on.
I'm inclined to be tolerant of this system, though. I hope it'll be iterated on and Rattati has shown a heartening willingness to listen to players about this sort of thing.
3. Assault rifles:
That episode was hilarious. I think they're okayish now, but it still amazes me that 'AR 514' became 'balanced' overnight because even more powerful rifles were introduced.
4. Academy and the NPE:
The NPE... is a complex beast.
It is, IMO, the single most important thing to DUST to be iterated on but one of the more difficult ones to get right. The Academy always seemed like a crude measure. It's something and that's great, but it's had its own series of problems and it's not sufficient on its own.
The little steps like skillbooks being bought for new players are nice, but more really needs to be done. It's a shame there don't seem to be the resources to deal with it.
DUST has a habit of overcomplicating itself for new players. Dropsuit command 5 is a farce of game design and whoever designed features like that in the skill tree is, frankly, an idiot.
I'm probably going to start ranting about this if I spend too long on this post, though, so I'm going to cut it short there and go think of some little things that can be done for the poor newbies.
5. Regarding thinking about the reasoning behind statistics:
So much yes. If there is one thing to take away from this post, it's that there is a reason for statistics. Rattati is doing a fine job finding where problems are with statistics, but there could be some... refinement of what's done about it. Give the man credit where it's due though - he's apparently smarter than the entire previous game design team put together and has done more for balance in a couple of months than they did in years.
TL;DR: +1
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:53:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Damn these Gallenteans and their giant walls of text.
Someone needs to confiscate their keyboards.
It's funny that the Caldari should have a reputation for being 'industrious' when they post lazy comments like this. 
Soraya Xel wrote:I can't fathom reversing the awesome that is the new matchmaking. It's provided the most balanced matches in years. No longer does seeing a Fatal Absolution squad on the other team mean I might as well leave match, because it's going to be a stomp.
If you are a really high Mu squad, and hence get matchmade with some newbies, and hence, have an actual "tough fight" instead of an easy stomp, that is a good thing. You should never go into a match assured of victory. If you want a game mode that is doing less to make for even matches, try FacWar. :D
It's better than it was, but it's not perfect.
There are still matches where you have ludicrously stacked odds. Even on my alts with low mu scores I sometimes end up against a double squad on the other team with only solo players on mine.
We now have the basis of a solid matchmaker. There are still problems with it, though, but I suspect Rattati will build on that.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.10.02 22:12:00 -
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The thing about that, though, Soraya, is that if those players are on equal footing with the players composing the squad but are solo, the squadded players have a huge advantage.
I understand the matchmaker tries to compensate for that to some extent - but I don't think its enough. The squad advantage is a little under-rated in terms of mu - I'm getting a lot of matches where it's squadstomps but players of similar ability.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.03 06:03:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:So are you suggesting that a modifier should rank the Mu of squads higher then? Because Sgt Kirk's post above made me think he was unhappy his squad was being teamed up with newberries. Which would happen even more if having a full squad raised your Mu higher.
Maybe you are both on completely different sides of the debate, or I don't understand one of you. Please clarify.
No, he was unhappy his squad was being teamed up with newberries against two squads. The point was that squads > all - even if you have a good squad, if the rest of your team are complete terribads and the enemy team has an extra squad, the extra squad is going to make a huge difference.
Sgt Kirk wrote:
Rattati it should never be "intended" that players squad up with each other only to see two squads on the other team and get wrecked because their friendlies are fresh out the Academy just for the sake of "equalizing Mu" numbers. This is not balanced, this is not fair to your players, this is not logical. Anyone who plays this game for long knows that squads are what win battles not individuals. It doesn't matter if you have an A-team squad with the best DUSTers if the enemy team has two decent squads that communicate with each other.
Even if you have an excellent squad, if the enemy have twice as many squads they are going to have the advantage.
One effect I've also noticed personally is that even if I squad with just two or three of my friends on a similar skill level to me, a lot of matches end up with us being the only squad on the team against a double full squad on the other team. Yes, I have a shiny KDR. No, I simply will not win a match if I and two others with a similar KDR are put against two solid squads.
This is why I feel that mu score is too inflated for individuals rather than squads.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.03 18:37:00 -
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Actually we're all terrible.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.03 18:39:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I've said it back then and I'll say it now. The reason the AR was dominating the kill feed was because... "Yes, the HAV is dominating the battlefield right now. But its totally fine because _____ and _____."- Taki, Spkr (Uprising 1.7) "Yes, the AR is dominating the battlefield right now. But its totally fine because _____ and _____."- Cat, Aeon, Regnum, Ydubbs, etc (Uprising 1.1 - 1.6)
"Yes, the scout is dominating the battlefield right now. But it's totally fine because _____ and _____."
- Very long list of posters from the barbershop (Uprising 1.8 onwards)
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.03 19:21:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:
Right alongside specific balance concerns and discussions, which are well documented and continue to this day (present concerns including fire-from-cloak and your very own, best-in-class bricked GalScout). By comparison, I don't recall many instances of give-and-take on the AR side of AR-514 discussions. I distinctly recall lots of "get good", "everything is fine", and a variety of excuses for the rampant and sustained imbalance. Seemed at the time more like players circling wagons than players interested in balance.
I knew you'd immediately feel that was an unjust accusation. And yes, it was. But your lumping Cat Merc and Kirk in with the likes of Spkr is exactly the same - completely unjust. You accuse people of insults and then do that? Really?
I know that they both have supported necessary changes because I've worked on threads with them. I used to write a frankly absurd number of balance threads and I have a hell of a lot of correspondence with both of them on many of them.
You came into this thread, looked at a handful of complaints, and promptly misinterpreted them hugely. No, Kirk is not 'seeking a return to AR514'.
Kirk was frustrated with some of the plasma rifle nerfs, and rightly so. Can you seriously claim that the 1.8 nerf to the breach rifle was necessary? Rattati has since given it serious attention, but it was in a poor way for a long time and Kirk competed against CRs and RRs in their prime with plasma weaponry. I'm sure he's certainly sentimentally attached to them just as you are to scouts - but comments on historical balance screwups hardly warrant accusing the guy of wanting it buffed beyond all reason.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.10.03 21:38:00 -
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y678iop wrote:
This conversation reads like fan created fps soap drama....
It probably is basically random forum drama.
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