I really want to see truly asymmetrical warfare, where people can use numbers to overwhelm a superior force or skill to overwhelm a larger force or what have you. But as long as you're forcing teams to be a certain size, and for one or both sides of the game to be assembled by a matchmaking system, I think you have to try for balance. And a sixteen-man team on voice comms should always beat a squad or two plus solo randoms. That isn't a good play experience for anyone.

A pubstomp isn't "competitive", nor is it "hardcore". It's easymode for the winning team, and there's no "competitive" in "no chance of winning".

This is a logical fallacy called "strawman". It's where you intentionally misrepresent someone's position to make it easier to criticize.

I am strongly in favor of players being able to play the game the way they want to. Whether that be as a squad, solo, casual, or hardcore player. Whether it's scamming or stealing, loyal to the cause or following whoever offers the highest paycheck, whatever. Forcing people to play "the Thor Odinson way" is not a game change I support.

Would love a free roam mode, but I think something like that for DUST 514 as opposed to Legion is probably a dream that will never come true. The ability to just have as many people as you want land at a facility would be amazing. (And would make planetary conquest a workable mechanic instead of a joke.)

I never said I'm against a team deploy mode that can be partaken at any time. Notice my first post in the thread is in support of it. But I think team deploy teams should be fighting other team deploy teams in matchmaking. Maybe if a team deploys a couple short, the matchmaking could assemble randoms to fill out the ranks, but a full team deployment should, at bare minimum, be matched against a team deploy that is also larger than a single squad.

You'll notice that in the OP what I proposed is not something that will lead to FW stomping at all. You seem to be ignoring the fact that I am calling for this to only happen in FW and not public matches at all. Pubs should remain a relatively safe place for new players and solo players alike where they don't have to worry about full teams that are actually coordinated. In FW though, as the goon said, the gloves should come off.

FW is located in low sec, where anything goes. If an EvE corp wants to bring in a fleet of stealth bombers to camp a gate so be it. In dust the game should play out the same way, where players and corps are fully unrestricted in FW matches. I doesn't matter if teams are restricted in size to 16 or 1600 there should be a team deploy mode that allows organized groups of mercs to join FW matches all together. Eve players who choose to enter low sec space on their own do so at their own risk, the same should be said for Dust.

Your call to have team deploy work only against other teams is totally out of line with the wild west nature of low sec and faction warfare space. Not only does such a concept deny players and corps their sandbox but it puts un-needed restrictions on a part of the game that is intended to have none.

Being in FacWar doesn't make it any less likely to be a pubstomp. If there is no attempt at balance, then there's no challenging gameplay for anyone. Just a bad experience for both teams.

The main "restriction" that's at fault, is the 16 player team limit. If it was possible to pit an organized team against perhaps a slightly larger number of randoms to compensate, it might be possible to balance.

The reason EVE balance isn't relevant here, is because in EVE you can swarm/outnumber an opponent, but DUST makes this impossible. Trying to make the EVE sov system work in DUST (planetary conquest) largely failed for the same reason.

Strongly wishing to encourage veterans to play in FacWar. That does, in part require ensuring FacWar is a satisfying, challenging, and rewarding experience. I do want to get vets out of pubs.

And I'm not opposed to team deploy. If team deploys in FacWar were pitted against other team deploys, you would have essentially the old corp battles system (which was the old FacWar system) running on the new FacWar system.

Actually, if you did this thing called "reading my posts", I specifically suggested that matchmaking would still be used to fill teams where the team deploy was short of 16 people. Say if one used team deploy to deploy two squads of six, or had 14 people, or whatever.



Thor might make good points if he read posts. But he didn't, so he isn't.