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LOGAN XIII
Proditus est
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:13:00 -
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Increased pg on pistols...lowered pg on magsec...backwards...in what reality would a pistol take more power than a SMG? Decreased mag size on Charged Sniper...and shortened ranges???? Again...in what reality does that make sense. Considering everything every country (real world) is trying to increase is range. Modern day snipers are making kilometer ranged kills on a regular basis now. And then some Billy Badass one shots me with a ******* bolt pistol. I quit playing Dust I WILL NOT PLAY YOUR PC VERSION. It'll only be even more fukt. |
LOGAN XIII
Proditus est
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:16:00 -
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Seriously, I'm taking 2-3 hits from Assault rifles and dying. Yet, my rail rifle requires half a mag to get a kill???? What the unholy **** is wrong with you drunk ass ******* idiots????? |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
12447
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:18:00 -
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I dunno, I'm just enjoying my dual PLC commando.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Cpt McReady
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:22:00 -
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let me guess, you are shield tanking and get ripped to pieces by an AR which is strong against shields... who would guess that happes. and unless you only have 100 hp, 3 hits from AR would not kill you.
and regarding your distance comment, here is your explanation: the suits can withstand a few hits from a tanks blaster thus you maybe can imagine that the energy lost from traveled distance of the projectile would render the projectile useless after a certain distance traveled because it just cant punch through the defense anymore. |
LOGAN XIII
Proditus est
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:36:00 -
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I'm talking SNIPER RIFLE RANGES. Where the H E L L did you get the idea I was talking about blaster turrets. I am an avid real world shooter. And snipers ARE able to hot targets out and over 1mile. Yet, to the CCP DEVS and anti-sniper winners do they think it makes sense to SHORTEN ranges. As I postulate, I thought the Eve Universe was supposed to be more advanced. Everything they are showing is inferior to "real world" weapons. I could hit with accuracy targets out to 350m with my M-4. But, CCP thinks sniper rifles should be effective at less than 500. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1856
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:43:00 -
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LOGAN XIII wrote:I'm talking SNIPER RIFLE RANGES. Where the H E L L did you get the idea I was talking about blaster turrets. I am an avid real world shooter. And snipers ARE able to hot targets out and over 1mile. Yet, to the CCP DEVS and anti-sniper winners do they think it makes sense to SHORTEN ranges. As I postulate, I thought the Eve Universe was supposed to be more advanced. Everything they are showing is inferior to "real world" weapons. I could hit with accuracy targets out to 350m with my M-4. But, CCP thinks sniper rifles should be effective at less than 500.
You seem to be missing one very important point here. This isn't the real world. This isn't a simulation of the real world. There is nothing even remotely real about DUST.
It is a game and the Devs are making changes to the sniper rifles to make them better fit that game, its direction, and the enjoyment of all its players. While your individual opinion is of concern to them they also need to think beyond the individual and look out for the greater community.
Now with more evil.
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3377
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:49:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:LOGAN XIII wrote:I'm talking SNIPER RIFLE RANGES. Where the H E L L did you get the idea I was talking about blaster turrets. I am an avid real world shooter. And snipers ARE able to hot targets out and over 1mile. Yet, to the CCP DEVS and anti-sniper winners do they think it makes sense to SHORTEN ranges. As I postulate, I thought the Eve Universe was supposed to be more advanced. Everything they are showing is inferior to "real world" weapons. I could hit with accuracy targets out to 350m with my M-4. But, CCP thinks sniper rifles should be effective at less than 500. You seem to be missing one very important point here. This isn't the real world. This isn't a simulation of the real world. There is nothing even remotely real about DUST. It is a game and the Devs are making changes to the sniper rifles to make them better fit that game, its direction, and the enjoyment of all its players. While your individual opinion is of concern to them they also need to think beyond the individual and look out for the greater community.
look you the op is clearly not after logic and sense here. Your just wasting everyone time here with you're sound reasoning
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
303
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:50:00 -
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LOGAN XIII wrote:I'm talking SNIPER RIFLE RANGES. Where the H E L L did you get the idea I was talking about blaster turrets. I am an avid real world shooter. And snipers ARE able to hot targets out and over 1mile. Yet, to the CCP DEVS and anti-sniper winners do they think it makes sense to SHORTEN ranges. As I postulate, I thought the Eve Universe was supposed to be more advanced. Everything they are showing is inferior to "real world" weapons. I could hit with accuracy targets out to 350m with my M-4. But, CCP thinks sniper rifles should be effective at less than 500.
You do realize the most of the armor and shields in new eden are insanely advanced, right? Like batshit crazy advanced.
The range "issue" you don't like can be explained by the fact that the armor and shields of ships/drop suits can detect projectiles before they hit, and harden accordingly.
Say a Railgun was fired at a shielded target at 150m. In the time it took for the slug to reach the shields, the shields already detected the slug, and hardened they area that was about to be hit, reducing the incoming damage to a fraction. At 450m, the shields/armor had enough time to completely shrug off any damage that the slug would have caused.
The same can be applied to all but lasers, but those are explained by purposely focused lenses that provide damage up close that can eat through regenerating armor/shields at the cost of range.
The defense game in new eden is a lot more advanced than IRL... |
Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
991
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:51:00 -
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In the "real world" snipers don't have red lines to hide in.
Red line sniping had been a bittch tactic and a problem since Beta and CCP it's finally doing something about it.
Deal with it.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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LOGAN XIII
Proditus est
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:51:00 -
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It's a moot point after playing this game for almost 2 yrs and recommending it to my friends, I deleted the piece of fecal matter of a game after 3 match's tonight. |
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
303
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:53:00 -
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LOGAN XIII wrote:It's a moot point after playing this game for almost 2 yrs and recommending it to my friends, I deleted the piece of fecal matter of a game after 3 match's tonight. See you next month. |
LOGAN XIII
Proditus est
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:57:00 -
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FU CK ING GETTING 1SHOTED BY BOLT PISTOLS AFTER DUMPING HALF A MAG FROM A RAIL RIFLE INTO THE OPPOSING PLAYER. NOW THERE'S NOTHING BUT "BILLY BADA S S'" RUNNING AROUND WITH BOLT PISTOLS! F U C K THIS GAME. YPU HAD SOMETHING GOOD THE WAY IT WAS BUT YOU HAD TO GO AND FU CK IT UP. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1857
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Posted - 2014.09.26 08:57:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote: look you the op is clearly not after logic and sense here. Your just wasting everyone time here with you're sound reasoning
Good point.
I had actually told myself I wasn't going to respond to this "pay attention to me thread" but it got so far into the crazy realm that I couldn't stop myself.
Can't resist. Must, bring, reason. I. Am. Weak. Against. Foolishness.
Now with more evil.
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
1300
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Posted - 2014.09.26 09:06:00 -
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I figured out the Sniper range nerf... it's so that the client can actually render objects...
But really the nerf is good and bad. Getting counter-sniped is harder now since a counter on some maps can't reach you from the other side of the map so a counter-sniper would actually have to try and get in in order to reach you, same goes for me trying to counter someone else.
I could make the dot just a bit bigger, now it's so small that it get lost when aiming on bright things bc the red doesn't light up as much as before.
/c
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Cpt McReady
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.26 09:07:00 -
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l2p issues detected |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.09.26 09:13:00 -
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A new software defense patch arrived in all dropsuit manufacturers allowing shield and armor oscillations to pick up incoming sniper rounds beyond 400 meters. Suits can now react fast enough to arrange shielding and armor plating in a manner to completely deflect the round rendering it null and ineffective. This software update nearly is game changing as the new digital fortress electronic series given to eve starships that disallows viable engagements beyond 250 kms being feasible.
While caldari arms manufacturing are trying a way to circumvent issue they have redesigned tractory calculations and shell design to impact much more force if they hit. Net gains of increased energy departure allows rounds to snap clone soldiers necks with greater ease even if the round itself does not penetrate. However in their mad lapse to complete and distribute the software rival arms manufacturers stole lines of the code involving the impactor calculations and have now applied them to their side arms. The new calculations despite being simple in commands and adding in upsized ammo partitions draw lots more form the suit's power in recoil compensators than previous incarnates. The new models feature higher damage than before and stronger head impacts against the high tech dropsuits.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
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Cpt McReady
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.26 09:18:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:A new software defense patch arrived in all dropsuit manufacturers allowing shield and armor oscillations to pick up incoming sniper rounds beyond 400 meters. Suits can now react fast enough to arrange shielding and armor plating in a manner to completely deflect the round rendering it null and ineffective. This software update nearly is game changing as the new digital fortress electronic series given to eve starships that disallows viable engagements beyond 250 kms being feasible.
While caldari arms manufacturing are trying a way to circumvent issue they have redesigned tractory calculations and shell design to impact much more force if they hit. Net gains of increased energy departure allows rounds to snap clone soldiers necks with greater ease even if the round itself does not penetrate. However in their mad lapse to complete and distribute the software rival arms manufacturers stole lines of the code involving the impactor calculations and have now applied them to their side arms. The new calculations despite being simple in commands and adding in upsized ammo partitions draw lots more form the suit's power in recoil compensators than previous incarnates. The new models feature higher damage than before and stronger head impacts against the high tech dropsuits.
I expect all patch notes to be written like that from now on |
X7 lion
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
265
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Posted - 2014.09.26 09:26:00 -
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No its not there new goal, its there old one.
Do not contribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance.
being contradictory is not the same as being offensive.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.09.26 09:32:00 -
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When NOH news division was interviewing top Ishukone Weapons RnD he had this to say about it.
"We weren't surprised that technologies our own capsuleers would be using to discourage wasting ammo at extreme ranges would be quickly applied to the dropsuits since both of these devices are very capable for utilizing soldier's brains as a massive subconscious quantum calculator.
While we here at Ishukone are hard at work to provide the best technology money can provide even our premier sniper rifle stinn continues to outranges every other known class of weapon still by up to 25% on the field and will still deliver maximum efficiency up to maximum interception range.
And to prove we are committed to our customers we have improved our coil and rail tech to allow much larger and more complex flechette designs to defeat any infantry defenses it hits. Shooting vulnerable points on drop suits have so far returned very satisfying results with 95.6% total annihilation of the target. The remaining 4.3% being a soft mission kill or incapacitation.
This is nearly a 125% increase over our previous models and I hope you do enjoy Ishukone technologies and continue to buy our products when you in no doubt to only shoot once.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
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LOGAN XIII
Proditus est
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Posted - 2014.09.26 09:35:00 -
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I wonder how many more will delete that game after tonight. Seriously, all of a sudden it's freaking pistol heaven. Everyone is running around like wild bill hicock, thinking they are the next best thing to come out of Tombstone. Again, 33 million so done the freaking toilet. |
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.09.26 09:45:00 -
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Sorry logan this thread stopped being about you and turned into the first desent set of posts ironwolf has dome in ages =ƒÿå=ƒÿå
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.09.26 10:16:00 -
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Amarr Certified News released an article detailing the recent changes from Imperial Arms to their scrambler pistol line-up.
"You see our lead designing slave thought more of his ancestral barbaric ways he upscaled the power output of the previous model. This had unfortunate consequences "Trust in me," he said, I should have known better than to only have trust in no other but god. Alas the nasty little thing managed to slip in faults to the design. Within a fortnight of the release I began getting reports of the pistol seizing up, firing when not triggered and even exploding in soldiers hands all at the cost of the elegance the better fected pistoles once held the highest reservation in fear for.
Unfortunately as the song of war goes on there is always someone out there attempting to break chorus. Our symphony must continue to adapt and change to appease the tastes of our glorious defenders of the realm. So we have to continue to strive in every way possible. While the slave has been severely beaten and punished for his transgressions. He did have a point in needing to allow larger partitions of energy to be departed with every rightful pull of the trigger. We let an amarrian clear out the defects and the pistol is now safe and efficient to use in god's service. "
While the man interviewed remain anonymous the Theology Council has released a statement today into investigating the source of this information. The council seeks to press charges of blasphemy on the grounds of using minmatar thinking in designing weapons for imperial ways which is a clear violation that had in the past allowed a number of slaves to escape.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
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Posted - 2014.09.26 10:16:00 -
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LOGAN XIII wrote:I am very upset about people killing me in an fps
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
82
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Posted - 2014.09.26 10:23:00 -
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Honestly im quite good with these new way what Rattatis team chosed. And other side, OP told something about getting people out of game, but i saw slight influx of new players after evefest debacle and start with hotfixes. Honestly and with all respec, i know what is pain of OPs (thats basicaly reason why a start from scratch ), but right now everythingie seems tinked FINALY great and balanced well Hell i have finaly fun ingame, and i was one who basicaly defend beta system and how i was angry and unsuportive for Dust before. Right now everything seems quite good and well.
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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Mregomies
Beer For Evil Mercs
287
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Posted - 2014.09.26 10:29:00 -
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DUST514 is balanced now (IMO) there is no only 1 suit that own everything. V vs AV is fun now = no instakill V with AV = WP. Snipers... I must stay calm and choose my target to OHK (damn I like this headshot dmg%) or I'll be hunted down outside redline. Scouts... Hit and run! fun as hell!!! (I don't use SG) Logis... uuuuuu tha adrenaline when repping heavy in gunfight!! Enjoy! don't try to find faults all the time...
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
Logibro
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Cpt McReady
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2014.09.26 10:48:00 -
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Mregomies wrote: Logis... uuuuuu tha adrenaline when repping heavy in gunfight!! you mean you try to rep the heavy while the invisible scout sneaks up to you and one shots you with his shotgun?
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Mregomies
Beer For Evil Mercs
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Posted - 2014.09.26 10:54:00 -
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Cpt McReady wrote:Mregomies wrote: Logis... uuuuuu tha adrenaline when repping heavy in gunfight!! you mean you try to rep the heavy while the invisible scout sneaks up to you and one shots you with his shotgun? That is the rush yes. Try to be aware and spin around to find shimmering fairy with sg
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
Logibro
Logibro2
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.09.26 11:30:00 -
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LOGAN XIII wrote: Increased pg on pistols...lowered pg on magsec...backwards...in what reality would a pistol take more power than a SMG? Decreased mag size on Charged Sniper...and shortened ranges???? Again...in what reality does that make sense. Considering everything every country (real world) is trying to increase is range. Modern day snipers are making kilometer ranged kills on a regular basis now. And then some Billy Badass one shots me with a ******* bolt pistol. I quit playing Dust I WILL NOT PLAY YOUR PC VERSION. It'll only be even more fukt.
It's the map sizes. CCP had to nerf them for performance soGǪ
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1165
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Posted - 2014.09.26 12:03:00 -
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A ding for every thread containing a complaint against the Bolt Pistol
LOGAN XIII wrote: And then some Billy Badass one shots me with a ******* bolt pistol. I quit playing Dust I WILL NOT PLAY YOUR PC VERSION. It'll only be even more fukt.
*ding*
LOGAN XIII wrote:FU CK ING GETTING 1SHOTED BY BOLT PISTOLS AFTER DUMPING HALF A MAG FROM A RAIL RIFLE INTO THE OPPOSING PLAYER. NOW THERE'S NOTHING BUT "BILLY BADA S S'" RUNNING AROUND WITH BOLT PISTOLS! F U C K THIS GAME. YPU HAD SOMETHING GOOD THE WAY IT WAS BUT YOU HAD TO GO AND FU CK IT UP.
*ding*
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Duke Noobiam
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
171
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Posted - 2014.09.26 12:14:00 -
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LOGAN XIII wrote:I'm talking SNIPER RIFLE RANGES. Where the H E L L did you get the idea I was talking about blaster turrets. I am an avid real world shooter. And snipers ARE able to hot targets out and over 1mile. Yet, to the CCP DEVS and anti-sniper winners do they think it makes sense to SHORTEN ranges. As I postulate, I thought the Eve Universe was supposed to be more advanced. Everything they are showing is inferior to "real world" weapons. I could hit with accuracy targets out to 350m with my M-4. But, CCP thinks sniper rifles should be effective at less than 500.
Dust is not real life, it's a game played on maps that have redlines. This is why snipers needed a range reduction.
CCP Ratati and the gang have greatly improved the game, most of the community recognize this.
Take a deep breath, let the butthurt pass, try not to worry about you kdr, adjust to the new meta and enjoy the game.
How do you kill that which has no life?
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