I think it should be based upon the gear the player is wearing and less on the SP of the players.

So if a long term vet is trying to challenge himself by running starter fits and killing newer players with enough SP to have proto suits, then that vet should get the greater WP for having a greater challenge.

This would also affect new players who don't have enough skill for higher tier items, as they could get more WP for those proto bear kills.

I don't think vets should be outright nerfed, especially if they are not proto stomping.

That's a good point, and this proposal is not about nerfing vets, it's about two related goals:

1) giving low mu players an incentive program that is based on what they accomplish on the battlefield

2) creating game mechanics that encourage peeps to look for harder fights.

The mu ratio multiplier is meant to encourage both points, the minimum WP payout is meant to protect vets, and the gear meta multiplier is meant to reward players who are looking for hard mode.

Quick Questions

Lets pretend that i go proto in order to kill a guy.
Think Frostkitty,1st LT tibs,Aldin Khan level good players.
Say i do get the kill BUT im hurt bad in the duel and a guy spawns then SRs me.
Who would get rewarded more?
Me for killing a big threat(we were both proto) or the guy that spawned and standard scrambled a hurt proto minscout?

Another thing about the lower tier suit killing the higher tier suit mechanic
How would support Logis fit into this?
A lot use higher tiered suits for survivablity and more equipment.
They would get the same amount of WPs but slayers would get an increased payout for killing them?

Good questions, let's see:

In your first example, depending on your mu, you'd get a pretty good WP payout for killing any of those guys. They'd most likely be running proto also, so the payout would be neutral there.

The guy who spawns in with the SR would get the mu ratio multiplier(the likelihood of this giving him Bonus WP depends on the proportion of enemy players with a lower mu than you in that match), but he would get a buff to WP based on the gear meta differential(but that would average out over time because the next guy who spawns in while you're in bad shape might be packing higher meta than you, depends what average meta you run tbh).

You've presented a valid case, but a special one. If we imagine all possible case and integrate over all of them, i think we all come to the same intuitive conclusion: all-proto all-the-time high mu players might do a little bit worse, maybe 10% less WP over a match. Low mu or low meta players will do much better, and low mu low meta players who are winning engagements and getting big bonuses won't be low mu for long ;)

The Logi example is much tougher for this proposed system to deal with and as stated this system is unfair to Logis re combat WP payouts. We can look at what we do now: support/triage WP are to a large extent calibrated around what slayers can make in a match. We could do the same again: Calibrate logi support WP to compensate for the hit they take under this mechanic. So while the proposed mechanic is unfair to them, we could make it up with triage/support WP buffs(maybe specific to Logis, dunno right now).

we don't really have the population to filter mu matchmaking. i'm already waiting 5+ minutes to join a pub as it is.

100% agreed. The worst thing we could do is break up the player base. Also, the single shard is probably the biggest single thing that New Eden has going for it.

The whole motivation for this system is to keep everyone together but also find a natural way to address the imbalances that come with mixing seal pups with sharks.

I think it should be based upon the gear the player is wearing and less on the SP of the players.

So if a long term vet is trying to challenge himself by running starter fits and killing newer players with enough SP to have proto suits, then that vet should get the greater WP for having a greater challenge.

This would also affect new players who don't have enough skill for higher tier items, as they could get more WP for those proto bear kills.

I don't think vets should be outright nerfed, especially if they are not proto stomping.