It also disgusts me how players try to hide such descrepencies. Every ADS pilot knew this was an issue, but they tried to keep the playerbase in the forums away from the issue by suggesting a buff to swarms. In the same manner that the FOTM Scouts of 1.8 tried to avoid a nerf by suggesting that ONLY a buff to assaults would balance out their suit. Both got the raw end of the stick for thier playstyle because they refused to admit that there was an issue with what they were doing. Not only that, players who did not abuse the system were/will be included in the beating with the nerf bat.

I agreed with you until this part. Scouts admitted they were op and even suggested nerfs to rattati. Maybe a couple fake scouts didn't but the majority recognized that there was an issue.

I was talking about the FOTM scouts, but no most scouts, at least on the forums, simply replied to all suggested changes to scouts with the old, " scouts are fine, just buff assaults."

It also disgusts me how players try to hide such descrepencies. Every ADS pilot knew this was an issue

Every pilot knew skill 'stacking' was an issue (even the ones who argue to let it stay agree with that) No one in their right mind thought the normal rate of fire bonus was Over the top, because without it the small rail is worthless as av (but still has the range and accuracy to pop your head off as infantry.

Small missiles have always been the thing people agree are key to ads, it's been said again and again, but it just gets ignored... Bonus rate of fire is meaningless. Those pilots you see go 30+ kills without a death are using missiles, I don't use a Python therefore I don't get any RoF bonus on missiles, yet I still can go a butt load of kills against av using missiles. Try it with a blaster and lololol or a Python with small rails (they die so easily it's not even funny.)

But as per usual people just wanted to see a nerf to dropships, as with every patch... Congrats you got one and left room for another in the next hotfix... That's win win I guess.


Edit - But yeah pilots suck because they try to hide things people don't read when they do make suggestions.

Maybe you're right, maybe Rails are terrible at AV without the 50% bonus, maybe you should have discussed it with other players on the forums

This was the reason scouts went on the offensive so to speak to identify legit problems and find solutions that fixed the problems without creating new ones.

It is also a reason we have tried to talk to other roles (heavies and tankers) to get them to realize that if there are problems it is to your benefit to help find solutions.

Otherwise you might find yourself worse off than had you been part of the discussion.

Maybe I should have 'again' you mean... It's out there but as backed up again by your arrogance no one reads it. Also there's a difference between aiming a turret from a stationary position and aiming from a moving dropship, not to mention firing from the front turret on an ads includes getting your dropship in the way of what you're shooting at.

& since you're so good at taking out 'militia' and 'badly fitted' tanks with your small rail, how about trying it on an rep stacked maddy... Good luck it'll be a long fight if it doesn't turn around and blow you to pieces straight away.

Anyway I gave you the benefit of the doubt and checked all your posts and nothing was posted about ROF of the ADS

honestly I want the ads rof bonuses gone, they are not balanced and are not needed, I didn't even skill into them for a long time and it's still easy enough to kill a forge gunner without missile speed as it is also easy to down a tank without the rof bonus for rails.

& you did a really stellar job...



There's 1 now waste some more time if you like... I'm done my point is proven & my care is lacking.