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Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3460	Posted - 2014.09.22 18:22:00 - [1] - Quote ADS is really OP. Rattati's balance work isn't just, or even primarily, based on his personal experience. CCP has metrics for how weapons, dropsuits, vehicles, etc. are performing, how many are sold, and more. They use a lot of statistics in balancing. The problem is your ADS was "denied" by a swarm launcher. The question is: Was your ADS killed by a swarm launcher? You should die in an FPS. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3464	Posted - 2014.09.22 18:34:00 - [2] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: If ADS is killable by a single swarm launcher outside of the ADS pilot being incredibly stupid then it simply kills the role. A solo role that cannot be killed by another solo player specced in the role intended to counter it should not exist. So if ADSes can't live with balanced gameplay, that's their choice. Thor Odinson42 wrote: The thing about vehicles in pubs is that I don't think they can EVER be balanced vs AV. There are just simply too many solo players and noobs derping things up. If they are balanced for pubs as you are proposing they should be so cheap that you don't worry about losing 4 or 5 a match. I have long held that I am entirely okay with a vehicle costing as much as a dropsuit, as long as it's balanced to be as powerful as one. ISK cost is not an excuse to be more powerful than two or three players combined. And yeah, I inherently believe vehicles are broken, and unfixable in DUST. I have a really strong and sincere hope CCP completely redesigns vehicles for Legion from the ground up with proper roles and counters in mind. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3467	Posted - 2014.09.22 18:56:00 - [3] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: They will never be able to balance vehicles vs solo players in pubs. People need to stop advocating for solo STD/Militia/BPO ISK grinders in pubs and push for a more team play oriented game. Push the better players toward playing in team deploy modes and it should clear the way for people to derp it up in pubs. The times when vehicles were the most balanced in PC, they were completely and utterly destroying the game for people in pubs. I know people say we shouldn't balance around ISK, but I don't see a way around it for vehicles. The better players in the game are in squads using teamwork while droves of solo players are licking installation windows in the redline. I don't see how it's possible. But since pubs are the primary playstyle, pubs are an important aspect of what to balance for. I definitely want much higher incentives in FacWar to encourage better players to play there. ISK balancing can never work, and should never be used. Because as long as some corps have billions of ISK lying around from the passive PC ISK days, they can break the game. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3483	Posted - 2014.09.22 20:14:00 - [4] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: I know, but I find no more enjoyment from this game. MAYBE, if I got a respec so I could get the hell out of vehicles. There was just this big event this weekend where you could get 2 mil SP for free (or 3 mil for pocket change), which is more than enough to get going into a new role. Did you participate? CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3492	Posted - 2014.09.22 20:38:00 - [5] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: It's just another kick to the gut for PC players. The ADS has really curbed tank spam in PCs and it makes the strategies very interesting. Asking CCP to balance around PC (pretty much a completely dead game mode) is a stretch for sure, but the highest level of gameplay is always what the better players are going to look at. Blunt reality is allowing the game to suck for the majority of players just to keep things balanced for PC isn't going to work. Because even those few people playing PC probably spend more of their time in pubs. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.

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