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rithu Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 141	Posted - 2014.09.22 16:21:00 - [1] - Quote Hard nerfs, & new sp allocations for newbies. Must have a respec, also most of the vets already got 70+mil SP & skilled into what they want. So please let us noobs get a respec so we nhave an edge against the vets.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 5114	Posted - 2014.09.22 16:24:00 - [2] - Quote rithu wrote: Hard nerfs, & new sp allocations for newbies. Must have a respec, also most of the vets already got 70+mil SP & skilled into what they want. So please let us noobs get a respec so we nhave an edge against the vets. Vet here. Under 60M SP. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
rithu Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 141	Posted - 2014.09.22 16:25:00 - [3] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Vet here. Under 60M SP. I said most of em
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 2674	Posted - 2014.09.22 16:28:00 - [4] - Quote Just broke 50M this weekend after not playing for months. Who's got 70+ ?
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3644	Posted - 2014.09.22 16:28:00 - [5] - Quote Been here since day 1 closed beta 36m sp. Don't really care either way. A respec will allow the fotm chasers to leave scouts and heavies which I'm against since they deserve a nerf. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
rithu Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 141	Posted - 2014.09.22 16:29:00 - [6] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Just broke 50M this weekend after not playing for months. Who's got 70+ ? many......
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 2674	Posted - 2014.09.22 16:31:00 - [7] - Quote rithu wrote: Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Just broke 50M this weekend after not playing for months. Who's got 70+ ? many...... pics or it didn't happen
Dreis Shadowweaver D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 196	Posted - 2014.09.22 16:34:00 - [8] - Quote Why do you need a respec? The Million Clone Challenge should have given you at least 2 million SP... Join the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I've only ever known 1.8... Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2642	Posted - 2014.09.22 16:44:00 - [9] - Quote There should be a big red button in the Merc Quarters that gives you a full respec, no questions asked. Because, it just doesn't matter and no one should care what anyone else does with their SP. The sig is back! K/D(r) matchmaking would even fix the matchmaking fix.
valad II NoGameNoLife 68	Posted - 2014.09.22 16:57:00 - [10] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: There should be a big red button in the Merc Quarters that gives you a full respec, no questions asked. Because, it just doesn't matter and no one should care what anyone else does with their SP. Then I guess decisions don't matter and you shouldnt be responsible for the ones you make. Just the opposite of what this game was built on. Spend wisely.

Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2643	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:00:00 - [11] - Quote valad II wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: There should be a big red button in the Merc Quarters that gives you a full respec, no questions asked. Because, it just doesn't matter and no one should care what anyone else does with their SP. Then I guess decisions don't matter and you shouldnt be responsible for the ones you make. Just the opposite of what this game was built on. Spend wisely. That has been proven a stupid axiom here on so many levels for so long, it's a wonder anyone bothers to burp it up anymore. The sig is back! K/D(r) matchmaking would even fix the matchmaking fix.
valad II NoGameNoLife 70	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:04:00 - [12] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: valad II wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: There should be a big red button in the Merc Quarters that gives you a full respec, no questions asked. Because, it just doesn't matter and no one should care what anyone else does with their SP. Then I guess decisions don't matter and you shouldnt be responsible for the ones you make. Just the opposite of what this game was built on. Spend wisely. That has been proven a stupid axiom here on so many levels for so long, it's a wonder anyone bothers to burp it up anymore. You're right. Respecs everyday , allday. Sounds so cool.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2643	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:06:00 - [13] - Quote valad II wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: valad II wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: There should be a big red button in the Merc Quarters that gives you a full respec, no questions asked. Because, it just doesn't matter and no one should care what anyone else does with their SP. Then I guess decisions don't matter and you shouldnt be responsible for the ones you make. Just the opposite of what this game was built on. Spend wisely. That has been proven a stupid axiom here on so many levels for so long, it's a wonder anyone bothers to burp it up anymore. You're right. Respecs everyday , allday. Sounds so cool. No dopier than the alternatives, considering the Lobby McBugfest we're shaking hands with now. Wow, those extra eye-rolls just made me smarter than you. The sig is back! K/D(r) matchmaking would even fix the matchmaking fix.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1203	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:07:00 - [14] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Because, it just doesn't matter and no one should care what anyone else does with their SP. Agreed , even more so with a game that's on life support . I for one would .. can't understand those who are against it , just don't file for one ... a system should be set up in place so that those who would like one , can file for one after delta so we can be done with this subject and get this whole thing over with already . I can see why it wasn't done after the infantry changes before FF but now , that there were more changes .. it's only right and would even up the playing field so that those who are really assaults can be assaults and get out of scouts and heavies . I could care less about FOTM because right now there is no clear cut FOTM and that's the way it should be but the oversaturation of scouts is killing this game for a lot of players as you can see posts from players on a regular . After Delta , a thread should be in place for players to become informed and then a filing process so that those who would like a refund can acquire one and those who don't , won't be bothered . Lets get this done already so that we can more on and some fun can be had by those who are clamoring for a refund , if it's a full or infantry ... right now with the climate and how boring this game is for some , this could bring some new energy into the whole mix . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1205	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:10:00 - [15] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: valad II wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: There should be a big red button in the Merc Quarters that gives you a full respec, no questions asked. Because, it just doesn't matter and no one should care what anyone else does with their SP. Then I guess decisions don't matter and you shouldnt be responsible for the ones you make. Just the opposite of what this game was built on. Spend wisely. That has been proven a stupid axiom here on so many levels for so long, it's a wonder anyone bothers to burp it up anymore. IKR . How can choices matter when you make a choice and what you choose gets changed ? GTSOOH ... Get that $h!T out of here . Before you could use that excuse but now it's moot . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2644	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:11:00 - [16] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: valad II wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: There should be a big red button in the Merc Quarters that gives you a full respec, no questions asked. Because, it just doesn't matter and no one should care what anyone else does with their SP. Then I guess decisions don't matter and you shouldnt be responsible for the ones you make. Just the opposite of what this game was built on. Spend wisely. That has been proven a stupid axiom here on so many levels for so long, it's a wonder anyone bothers to burp it up anymore. IKR . How can choices matter when you make a choice and what you choose gets changed ? GTSOOH ... Get that $h!T out of here . Before you could use that excuse but now it's moot . Before what? The sig is back! K/D(r) matchmaking would even fix the matchmaking fix.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1205	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:16:00 - [17] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Before what? Yeah , I understand ... players use to say that decisions mattered and I would kind of except that but that's just crap now . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
valad II NoGameNoLife 72	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:22:00 - [18] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: valad II wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: valad II wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: There should be a big red button in the Merc Quarters that gives you a full respec, no questions asked. Because, it just doesn't matter and no one should care what anyone else does with their SP. Then I guess decisions don't matter and you shouldnt be responsible for the ones you make. Just the opposite of what this game was built on. Spend wisely. That has been proven a stupid axiom here on so many levels for so long, it's a wonder anyone bothers to burp it up anymore. You're right. Respecs everyday , allday. Sounds so cool. No dopier than the alternatives, considering the Lobby McBugfest we're shaking hands with now. Wow, those extra eye-rolls just made me smarter than you. OMG you are a genius. You should go work for CCP you have all the answers. You should have been CPM that is a def. for sure.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2644	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:24:00 - [19] - Quote valad II wrote: OMG you are a genius. You should go work for CCP you have all the answers. You should have been CPM that is a def. for sure. Wouldn't "Uncle" have been easier to type? The sig is back! K/D(r) matchmaking would even fix the matchmaking fix.
SILENT GIANT FATHERS-AND-SONS 74	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:26:00 - [20] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: rithu wrote: Hard nerfs, & new sp allocations for newbies. Must have a respec, also most of the vets already got 70+mil SP & skilled into what they want. So please let us noobs get a respec so we nhave an edge against the vets. Vet here. Under 60M SP. Also, a respec won't give the newbro an edge against a vet. A newbro will only have an edge against a vet if he outplays that vet. Running FoTM gear is no substitute for smart play. Agreed. As much as Im guilty of wasting SP and would like it back, I can live with my decisions. I was surprised at how well I was doing w my alt with no SP and militia gear. Leveling up stuff seems it just gives you more padding to allow for more reckless playstyles. Some encounters there's just no way out of, you'll die no matter lvl your at.

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1207	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:26:00 - [21] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Why do you need a respec? The Million Clone Challenge should have given you at least 2 million SP... Haven't you noticed by now when players start to talk about refunds and all , that we magically get an event like the one that we just had and that was because of the release of Destiny over anything else . It's cool that those who are pleased with their system ... and you have roll over SP's in place so that you can adapt and change up but there are some who are not happy with their layout and feel that if they could change how their set-up's are , that would breath a new life into this game . How is that so wrong and who in the community who really cares about the community , would be against that ??? It's nice to feel like you can sculpt your character the way that you like and not have some access baggage of useless items and wasted skill points . Those who have been here long enough , know that you had countess chances to change things that were changed and were able to rearrange the constant directional changes ( much like now ) that this game had in it's early days . There should be no vet against a refund . You have the SP cushion , knowledge and experience to handle it also you had a chance to experience it yourself in the early onset of the game . I really can't see a new player ( Not an alt ) that would be against it as well because that's like shooting yourself in the foot . Let's just get this done already . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1310	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:43:00 - [22] - Quote rithu wrote: Hard nerfs, & new sp allocations for newbies. Must have a respec, also most of the vets already got 70+mil SP & skilled into what they want. So please let us noobs get a respec so we nhave an edge against the vets. Thread number #1075. BTW, respecs help MORE mid-range veterans than juniors. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4661	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:45:00 - [23] - Quote rithu wrote: Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Just broke 50M this weekend after not playing for months. Who's got 70+ ? many...... There's only a handful with that much. I'd say under 20. I'm at 68.3 after this event. Level 4 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4661	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:46:00 - [24] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: rithu wrote: Hard nerfs, & new sp allocations for newbies. Must have a respec, also most of the vets already got 70+mil SP & skilled into what they want. So please let us noobs get a respec so we nhave an edge against the vets. Thread number #1075. BTW, respecs help MORE mid-range veterans than juniors. I'd say the 15-20 Mil SP player probably gains the most. Level 4 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
valad II NoGameNoLife 72	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:50:00 - [25] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: valad II wrote: OMG you are a genius. You should go work for CCP you have all the answers. You should have been CPM that is a def. for sure. Wouldn't "Uncle" have been easier to type? Whatever that means, sure. Just sounds creepy to call you that "Uncle" makes it sound like your a chilly moe(child molester) . What ever you want Uncle. You are right, you DESERVE a Respec button. Fukin morons.
Awesome Pantaloons Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 583	Posted - 2014.09.22 17:53:00 - [26] - Quote A respec won't give you an edge against me. More SP will do that. Keep playing, and maybe some day you will have proto suits for days like I do. Also, I don't feel like making a gigantic list of my skills and putting all the points back. "Awesome Pants don't care. Awesome Pants don't give a s**t."
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5753	Posted - 2014.09.22 19:36:00 - [27] - Quote Just like all the other threads, signed. I have proto weapons that I officially won't ever use again as I decided to dedicate this char to Minmatar. I think, therefore brainfart. I sauced my info from Heinz.
Riruodo Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 236	Posted - 2014.09.22 19:42:00 - [28] - Quote while I have some sp in skills I regret, I'm kind of for and kind of against respecs. On one hand, I don't see how respecs harm the community, and they are a good way of retaining players, especially new ones who are hovering in the 1 million to 10 million (where a respec would help the most). On the other hand, too many respecs will really play havoc with fotm builds. So I think we should have a respec once in a blue moon. maybe once every three or four hotfixes, and one at the beginning of every client update or inclusion of new guns and suits etc. But no more than that and definitely not one after we just finished the Million Clone Challenge. If you can't wait until then, I think CCP should charge money for special skill boosters that reset your sp for a respec. That way if you really really want a respec now, you at least help CCP stay up a little longer (and thus help the rest of the players to enjoy Dust a little longer). Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
Cpt McReady Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2014.09.22 19:51:00 - [29] - Quote it might have mattered long time ago, then patch poker started to ruin specialized fittings. it is one thing to balance something but another to completey change someones fittings due to bad design decisions. anyway we wont get a respec, it is "too much of work" to write a database query & insert of a few lines.
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 74	Posted - 2014.09.22 20:11:00 - [30] - Quote valad II wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: There should be a big red button in the Merc Quarters that gives you a full respec, no questions asked. Because, it just doesn't matter and no one should care what anyone else does with their SP. Then I guess decisions don't matter and you shouldnt be responsible for the ones you make. Just the opposite of what this game was built on. Spend wisely. That argument is negated by all the changes and new content.



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