DUST Search - The Plasma Cannon needs something....

el OPERATOR wrote:

Cpt McReady wrote:

el OPERATOR wrote:

scrub stuff

this guy obviously never used a PLC.

I bet he cant even list the PLC bugs, anyone that used the PLC for 10 minutes can, in short he just another random guy with zero credibility.

there are 5 PLC bugs but common sense and logic does not apply to Dust. all the scrubs just dont want a challenge thus they do not want anything that could challenge them obviously. or they just troll. a PLC fix would mean that this guy have to adapt and use a brain which he does not like.

You're right, I've never used the Plasma Cannon, have never picked off snipers on the rings from the catwalks, never picked off forgers on the catwalks from the rings, haven't been successfully, easily, using the PLC on AV fits for over a year, and have never, ever, ever used a PLC against any toptier corps in PC and never killed anybody with it. Roll

You're right, the Plasma Cannon needs a belt-feeder, a dot sight, a scope, a tripod with a bipod, a mount for attaching it to LAVs (with driver control), needs lock on AND target stickiness for installations, a full screen crosshair with rainbows showing the round decay over distance and should be target-paintable like an OB.

RKKR is right that even after all that all you indulgent, self-entitled children who are trash with a PLC now will still be trash with the PLC then.

BUT, you'll still be able to create qq threads about how utterly turrrible this game is!

EDIT: Hey, Breakin! If I reference that cheetos and mountain dew sucks will that push my feedback up to a 5/10?

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el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 322	Posted - 2014.09.19 17:54:00 - [31] - Quote The final result of the suggestions in this and similar threads will be an OP Plasma Cannon, FOTM spammed and subsequently nerfed into the ground ala flaylocks, logi suits and free LAVs. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 322	Posted - 2014.09.19 18:02:00 - [32] - Quote Oooohh, 3 million SP! Thats the number for perfection! My bad, 3 million SP and a week using the thing! You're right, after 3 million SP and a week you should totally be PLCRomperStomperSaurusRex!!! If not, it must be because the PLC needs "something"!!!!!!!1!!!1!11 Only thing your PLC needs is a new OPERATOR. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Cpt McReady Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 36	Posted - 2014.09.19 19:20:00 - [33] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: scrub stuff this guy obviously never used a PLC. I bet he cant even list the PLC bugs, anyone that used the PLC for 10 minutes can, in short he just another random guy with zero credibility. there are 5 PLC bugs but common sense and logic does not apply to Dust. all the scrubs just dont want a challenge thus they do not want anything that could challenge them obviously. or they just troll. a PLC fix would mean that this guy have to adapt and use a brain which he does not like.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2872	Posted - 2014.09.19 19:25:00 - [34] - Quote El OPERATOR: 2/10. Points docked for trying hard at trolling, failing, and being obvious. You get +1 point for effort.
John ShepardIII Pure Evil. 513	Posted - 2014.09.19 20:05:00 - [35] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: So I'm new to the PLC but I loved it so much I just put about 2m sp into the weapon and its so much bloody fun and just awesome to use! That being said, while it rewards skilled / lucky shots against soft infantry targets it severely lacks in the AV dept. The projectile flight speed is just too slow. The only reason I can see the speed being as slow as it is - is a balancing feature in terms of viable range? So my proposal: - Increase PLC projectile speed somewhat, I couldn't give you a number but it needs to be faster. (This is the main issue I feel) - Increase direct damage a bit so it can actually do something to vehicles. (Splash is fine as is, dont reward inaccuracy) I know there are some of you out there much more versed in the ways of the PLC than me, what do you think? I agree. I use the Plc a lot for the Lolz and honestly no matter how awesome you are with aiming it, the projectile shoots so slow that you have to use it about 10m away from your target max. So yes I agree with the buff, but instead of giving it straight up more direct impact DMG just give it a DMG bonus to vehicles like Knova Knives . Still give it the projectile movement increase The True Shepard.
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1025	Posted - 2014.09.19 20:13:00 - [36] - Quote People are going to be dissappointed that they still suck with the PLC when the speed is increased.
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1025	Posted - 2014.09.19 20:22:00 - [37] - Quote Quote: I use the Plc a lot for the Lolz and this is also the reason why most comment regarding PLC are useless. PS: if you think the PLC is only usefull for targets in a range of 10m...then you might be aiming right for targets within that range, adjust your aiming for targets further away. Soon you'll notice that aiming isn't a problem...but hit detection is.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 323	Posted - 2014.09.19 20:43:00 - [38] - Quote Cpt McReady wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: scrub stuff this guy obviously never used a PLC. I bet he cant even list the PLC bugs, anyone that used the PLC for 10 minutes can, in short he just another random guy with zero credibility. there are 5 PLC bugs but common sense and logic does not apply to Dust. all the scrubs just dont want a challenge thus they do not want anything that could challenge them obviously. or they just troll. a PLC fix would mean that this guy have to adapt and use a brain which he does not like. You're right, I've never used the Plasma Cannon, have never picked off snipers on the rings from the catwalks, never picked off forgers on the catwalks from the rings, haven't been successfully, easily, using the PLC on AV fits for over a year, and have never, ever, ever used a PLC against any toptier corps in PC and never killed anybody with it. You're right, the Plasma Cannon needs a belt-feeder, a dot sight, a scope, a tripod with a bipod, a mount for attaching it to LAVs (with driver control), needs lock on AND target stickiness for installations, a full screen crosshair with rainbows showing the round decay over distance and should be target-paintable like an OB. RKKR is right that even after all that all you indulgent, self-entitled children who are trash with a PLC now will still be trash with the PLC then. BUT, you'll still be able to create qq threads about how utterly turrrible this game is! EDIT: Hey, Breakin! If I reference that cheetos and mountain dew sucks will that push my feedback up to a 5/10? Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
CommanderBolt TerranProtossZerg 1678	Posted - 2014.09.20 00:39:00 - [39] - Quote Just earlier today I semi sniped someone on the rings using the PLC. I also got someone else on that same map who was above the CRU on the cat walk type areas. I love the PLC, I'm not saying it needs huge changes. It has problems with hit detection for sure, just earlier on it went straight through a heavy`s chest and did nothing. I dont even think it hit. Screaming your head off isn't going to help anything. The reason I feel the weapon needs more speed is entirely to do with vehicles. That is not to say that it cannot hit, you are being ridiculous. I mention the 3m sp because you were implying that I am a scrub using a milita variant, saying I wont invest sp and are not willing to adapt. Then I say that I am heavily investing SP and you say: "Oooohh, 3 million SP! Thats the number for perfection!" and "should totally be PLCRomperStomperSaurusRex!!!" You sir are an idiot. No I love the thing, I just feel for it to be a more balanced weapon it could do with more projectile speed. CCP are giving it that so why the massive tantrum el OPERATOR? -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
CommanderBolt TerranProtossZerg 1678	Posted - 2014.09.20 00:43:00 - [40] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: BUT, you'll still be able to create qq threads about how utterly turrrible this game is! You didn't even read this thread did you. -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!

THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK Intrepidus XI EoN. 215	Posted - 2014.09.20 01:58:00 - [41] - Quote Slickback approves of this projectile increase. No longer will tanks lazily move to the side when I fire my giant balls of death at them. No longer will a flaming tank out run my round without even tryimg to. No longer will cocky dropship pilots escape after one round in their ass, only to return for revenge and run with their tail between their legs again. No longer will my lav kills consist of murder taxis and hat tricks. Planetside 2 Eventually Eh
Cpt McReady Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2014.09.20 14:07:00 - [42] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Cpt McReady wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: scrub stuff this guy obviously never used a PLC. I bet he cant even list the PLC bugs, anyone that used the PLC for 10 minutes can, in short he just another random guy with zero credibility. there are 5 PLC bugs but common sense and logic does not apply to Dust. all the scrubs just dont want a challenge thus they do not want anything that could challenge them obviously. or they just troll. a PLC fix would mean that this guy have to adapt and use a brain which he does not like. You're right, I've never used the Plasma Cannon, have never picked off snipers on the rings from the catwalks, never picked off forgers on the catwalks from the rings, haven't been successfully, easily, using the PLC on AV fits for over a year, and have never, ever, ever used a PLC against any toptier corps in PC and never killed anybody with it. You're right, the Plasma Cannon needs a belt-feeder, a dot sight, a scope, a tripod with a bipod, a mount for attaching it to LAVs (with driver control), needs lock on AND target stickiness for installations, a full screen crosshair with rainbows showing the round decay over distance and should be target-paintable like an OB. RKKR is right that even after all that all you indulgent, self-entitled children who are trash with a PLC now will still be trash with the PLC then. BUT, you'll still be able to create qq threads about how utterly turrrible this game is! EDIT: Hey, Breakin! If I reference that cheetos and mountain dew sucks will that push my feedback up to a 5/10? thanks for confirming that you have no clue. list all 5 PLC bugs and then you can talk. till then you are just a random scrub
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.09.20 15:32:00 - [43] - Quote G Felix wrote: There are whole topics from over a year ago simply asking that the hit detection issues and the dud shot glitch be fixed. The PLC has always suffered from functional issues first and foremost. We can't claim to know how effective the weapon really is, as it has yet to really function without handicapping glitches. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.09.20 15:35:00 - [44] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: This thread, like most PLC buff/nerf/tweak threads, is a product of the unskilled and impatient individuals whose constant pissing and moaning about "issues" take the valuable limited resources of the dev and squander them initiating data analysis of perfectly fine stats when those resources could be instead working to find solutions to the long and well documented list of ever-present game bugs like wonky hit detection, the sprint glitch and laaaaaagggg. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.09.20 15:35:00 - [45] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: The final result of the suggestions in this and similar threads will be an OP Plasma Cannon, FOTM spammed and subsequently nerfed into the ground ala flaylocks, logi suits and free LAVs. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.09.20 15:39:00 - [46] - Quote RKKR wrote: People are going to be dissappointed that they still suck with the PLC when the speed is increased. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.09.20 15:41:00 - [47] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: The final result of the suggestions in this and similar threads will be an OP Plasma Cannon, FOTM spammed and subsequently nerfed into the ground ala flaylocks, logi suits and free LAVs. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.09.20 15:42:00 - [48] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: RKKR wrote: People are going to be dissappointed that they still suck with the PLC when the speed is increased. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.09.20 15:43:00 - [49] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: The final result of the suggestions in this and similar threads will be an OP Plasma Cannon, FOTM spammed and subsequently nerfed into the ground ala flaylocks, logi suits and free LAVs. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.09.20 15:50:00 - [50] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: The final result of the suggestions in this and similar threads will be an OP Plasma Cannon, FOTM spammed and subsequently nerfed into the ground ala flaylocks, logi suits and free LAVs. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.

el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.09.20 15:55:00 - [51] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: The final result of the suggestions in this and similar threads will be an OP Plasma Cannon, FOTM spammed and subsequently nerfed into the ground ala flaylocks, logi suits and free LAVs. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 327	Posted - 2014.09.20 16:35:00 - [52] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: This thread, like most PLC buff/nerf/tweak threads, is a product of the unskilled and impatient individuals whose constant pissing and moaning about "issues" take the valuable limited resources of the dev and squander them initiating data analysis of perfectly fine stats when those resources could be instead working to find solutions to the long and well documented list of ever-present game bugs like wonky hit detection, the sprint glitch and laaaaaagggg. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1132	Posted - 2014.09.20 18:27:00 - [53] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Cpt McReady wrote: the hit detection on this thing is incosistent. just saying. even on flat surface, the splash damage sometimes refuses to register beyond 0.5m radius. I tested this on stationary targets. not to mention that projectile sometimes goes straight through dropsuits. increase projectile speed would be great though. Hit detection on anything with splash is odd. I use a MD and I could swear that some matches it doesn't have splash at all. Of course, it still scares the crap out of people because of the explosion so that helps. That. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.


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