I don't see any Snipers in this thread who are complaining.

OP is totally right guys. Let's not take into account that it's militia gear, costing a great deal to put on a suit. Or that it only has 3 shots per clip. Or that the thing sways like a drunk *****'s hips. Or that redline sniping is now easier to combat thanks to the nerf. Or that a headshot is quite difficult to pull off on anything that moves.

Let's all focus on dat OP 690 h3adsh0t dmg.

Snipers, when properly pulled out of the redline, are nice to have in a squad. I had some rando blueberry sniper in a squad once who I could say, "There is a minmatar logi on alpha. Kill it." and a few seconds later the logi's name would show up in the kill feed. It was nice.

The reduced range should reduce the number of redline snipers a bit.

^ This ^ I love all the bitching. And 90% of it is people who have never picked up a Sniper Rifle in this game and just see that 1 magic # (Like 1560 HP or whatever on the Charge). Forget all the other stuff like, as you said, sway, lower magazine capacity, lower total rounds carried (18 for a Charge), the fact you have to sit absolutely still in order to make a shot over 20 feet with any prayer of landing it, etc. It's all about that damned Alpha Damage. Yet none of these same people complain about a militia Forge that does 1200 HP Damage and has a 300 Meter range. You can move with it, move and shoot, and not have to sit and scream to people "KILL ME PLEASE."

Are you talking about the tac? The other rifles are getting the multiplier too, right?

While I somewhat agree....

The forge gun cannot head glitch imperviously behind hills a billion miles away. And if forge sniping is as easy as people think, why are there not more?
And also, once a forge starts firing, everyone on the map can see precisely where the forger is. No room for stealth with a forge like there is with a sniper.

There used to be a ton of people who would forge snipe, then they nerfed the splash, now you only get skilled shooters forge sniping. The way it should be.

And no I'm not complaining at all about the changes to snipers. I feel they need a LOT more help in the mechanics department (i.e crouching to shoot is crap)

The head glitch thing I've never had an issue with. If someone can kill me, I don't think I've ever come across someone I couldn't kill right back. That is just personal experience. I know it happens because too many people have brought it up for it to be some grand conspiracy.

True. I will give you that with the forge. I've done the forge Sniping before and it is damn hard to pull off. The splash nerf made it a LOT more difficult. There are still a few good ones out there (Funkmaster Whale comes to mind) but it definitely takes a certain amount of skill

I know you're not complaining specifically. I think your points are totally solid and realistic. The mechanics are out of whack. While not being in favor of quick sniping, it should be easier to pull up and fire a shot off then having to crouch down, wait for everything to stop moving, move the scope, then fire. This takes a MINIMUM of 4-5 seconds, more if using a Charge or unsure of the target. There should be a way to cut that down at least somewhat.

Honestly i see no problem here, if you feel issue with possibility to kill you by newbies dont play games.
I see that like great chance for people to find some strengh, when they fighting more viable contenders and thats a not bad thing in eyes of mine.

did you type this up in your native language then use google translate?
thats what it looks like, no offense

That's what people get for b*tching about redline snipers and wanting a range nerf. If the range gets nerfed to bring snipers closer to the battle then they deserve to be able to get a ohk for their troubles. Stop trying to make the sniper rifle just another short range rifle.

Since we're on the subject of neutering roles because somebody doesn't like others playing to that role; Next we should have logi not be able to carry so much dam*ed equipment.

DON"T LET THIS HAPPEN. Go here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175304&find=unread and tell Rattati what a terrible idea these changes are.
Also, a charge sniper rifle headshot on a cal commando w/ two damage mods will do 1565 damage, meaning it can ohk every suit in the game except for the amarr and gallente sentinel.

DON"T LET THIS HAPPEN. Go here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175304&find=unread and tell Rattati what a terrible idea these changes are.
Also, a charge sniper rifle headshot on a cal commando w/ two damage mods will do 1565 damage, meaning it can ohk every suit in the game except for the amarr and gallente sentinel.

Many snipers will still be able to snipe from inside the redline..... most snipers shoot at ranges less than 500 anyway.....

It's not like the maps are that huge that snipers will be forced to come out now.
Only thales shoot over 500 effectively, and yet to this day i have never seen a 600+ shot....
So shooting at 400M is pretty effective if you're 100m in the redline