Question Regarding Swarms physical limits:

When does a swarm missile run out of fuel?

As shown in the chart, it has a 400m maximum range from launch, but does it also have a flight time? If a ship stays within 400 meters of the launched location, while moving at high speed, will the swarm chase indefinitely? Or is it possible for a dropship to "scrub" the missile by making it run out of fuel by taking sharp turns and wasting it's flight time?

Also, thank you for the work you are putting into this Rattati, we realize this is no easy task.

The only comment previous to this was mine, and how was it bickering or off-topic?

ADS can no longer hover, so they have to keep moving, but gunners have a hard time hitting targets while the ADS moves, so I ask for stabilization.

Thanks for putting in the work Rattati. I have a couple questions regarding the chart.

1) why is the first chart have the drop ship hovering at 60m and the second one hovering at 80m? I cannot tell because the distance is measured in 200m intervals, but it looks like if the dropship is hovering at 60 in the second chart for comaparisons sake then wouldn't 3 swams hit the dropship with an afterburner?

2) I would really apreciate clarification on whether swarm explode after traveling 400m? Or are swarms programed to explode after 9 seconds of travel and 400m is how far the can fly in that period of time?

If the later is true then i worry that improving the speed will also increase the distance a missile can travel before self detonating.

Regarding the OPness of Dropships. Though i disagree that ADS are overpowered I agree with others on this thread that simply making them easier to kill is the wrong way to go about it. It doesn't help infantry who are not specced into AV and it doesn't chage the dynamics on the ground.

ROF bonus is also the wrong way to go about it. Rail turrets are already going to have the ROf nerfed, and it wont affect any missile incubus. It also doesn't fall inline with your vision of fast attack ships especially in terms of strafing.

Instead i would take a look at the main infantry destroyer the missile turrets (especialy the XT-1s). Increase the clip size (1 per level?) but reduce damage and splash so it doesn't one shot kill most suits. Firing more rounds but requiring more a lot more accuracy.

I've followed all of the hotfix conversations and i've noticed that when something is considered to be killing an extrodinary amount of clones or has an unfair advantage you've tweaked the weapon or module not the entire suit. (the exception being heavies with light weapons). I say look at the anti infantry effectiveness of dropships which comes from its weapons, and not solely the survivability of dropships vs 1 swarm launcher. Thats what got the pilots so very much against against the swarm buff, because our dropships are already extremely fragile.

I'm sorry if you consider this bickering or ranting but i love flying, i hate losing any ship (i'll recall my gorgons and my vipers rather than jump on a ledge and let them fall and die) and i lose a fair share to swarms already.

Increasing the Afterburner cooldown is a good start towards giving ground troops some breathing space, tweaking the small missile damage should give infantry more time to get to cover, and give swarmers a better oppurtunity to hit dropships which must get closer and hover longer (as in your first chart) as well as better survivabilty vs dropships. It would help all infantry vs dropships. Give all the troops a reasonable chance for survival vs the ADS, and i think this would go along way towards relieving the enimity between all troops and all pilots. 07.

Yes, because there are no variables to consider, like lag, frame rate, variating reaction times and responses depending on the individual, rendering issues. Yeah, it all happens the way it says so on the paper.

I'd like to see the proposed changes for HF Delta applied to the Assault Swarm Launcher as opposed to all of the Swarms. That way, the ASL would have a purpose that make sense within the context of an Assault variant.

Rattati, any new thoughts on assault swarms being anti-dropship? (1) I think it go es AV an option to kill us without it being a guaranteed win for them while at the same time (2) giving life to the most underused weapon in dust.