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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.09.15 03:26:00 -
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JLAVs are a valid tactic.
The only way to get killed by one is if you aren't paying attention (incompetence), or if the LAV Pilot manages to out-smart and/or out-maneuver you, in which case he's simply better than you.
All you have to do to stop them is either activate a NOS and then thrust in the opposite direction, causing them to miss their mark and allows you to destroy them; or shoot the REs and blow up the LAV. Heck, you can even shoot them out of the driver seat if you have a Missile Turret (AT-201 or better).
As for rooftop campers, if Pilots weren't able to zoom in and insta-kill AVers with a Boundless or Six Kin HMG, you'd see far less tower camping. Though the short range of a SL (175m) makes tower camping rather redundant in most situations.
Though if an AVer catches you by surprise, you should suffer the consequences.
The first Matari Commando
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.09.15 18:31:00 -
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Shooter Somewhere wrote: AS FOR YOUR COMMENT ABOUT A TANKER SHOULD BE EQUAL TO AN AV MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE. I HAVE 22MIL SP IN TANKS. YOU HAVE AT THE MOST WHAT 5MIL SP IN YOUR LITTLE AV? AND THAT COMES WITH ADVATAGES OF BEING ABLE TO DO INFANTRY CRAP.
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- Dropsuit Command III
- Minmatar Heavy Dropsuits III
- Minmatar Commando V
- Dropsuit Upgrades IV
- Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades V
- Dropsuit Armor Upgrades V
- Armor Plating V
- Armor Repairing V
- Dropsuit Shield Upgrades V
- Shield Extension V
- Dropsuit Core Upgrades V
- Dropsuit Engineering V
- Nanocircuitry V
- Dropsuit Electronics V
- Range Amplification V
- Profile Dampening V
- Precision Enhancement V
- Weaponry V
- Swarm Launcher Operation V
- Swarm Launcher Proficiency V
- Swarm Launcher Ammo Capacity V
- Swarm Launcher Rapid Reload V
- Swarm Launcher Fitting Optimization V
- [Secondary Weapon] Operation V
- [Secondary Weapon] Proficiency III
- [Secondary Weapon] Capacity V
Total: 21,646,220 SP Congratulations, you've spent a whooping .35m more SP than a Semi-Maxed out Swarm Launcher user does. Sadly, I'm going to redact my congrats to you, as that amount is miniscule.
Shooter Somewhere wrote:THATS LIKE SAYING MY MILTA SUITE WITH A BASIC RAIL RIFLE SHOULD KILL YOUR FULL PROTO HEAVY 1V1 AT LEAST ONCE IN A SINGLE GAME. A 5m SP investment is about 1/4 the investment of 22m SP, so it'd actually be:
Quote:"That's like saying my STD Suit with an ADV Rifle should kill your PRO Sentinel at least once in a single game"
Of course however, someone with a RR should be able to 1v1 a PRO Sentinel (or anything for that matter) if:
- The RR user is better than the Sentinel
- The Sentinel is lead into a trap by the RR user
- The Sentinel is inside the RR's Optimal Range
- The Sentinel is outside their Optimal Range
However, I do thank you for revealing your motive, which apparently seems to be removing the HAV's ability to be killed at least once a match (see above). Now, I no longer need (nor should) take you seriously.
Assuming I did in the first place, of course.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.09.16 02:41:00 -
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It disappoints me that this thread will never produce anything constructive, which is a shame because I'd like to see what Pilots can do when left to collaborate to themselves.
Maybe I'll get to see that someday...
Shooter Somewhere wrote: Look another AV thinking he knows wtf hes talking about. My stance on AV HAD AND ALWAYS WILL be YOU CANT DO IT BY YOURSELF.
As seen by my breakdown of your argument, I indeed "know wtf I'm talking about". Though if you feel as if I don't, I'd be very interested to hear why in a well layed out, and constructive manner.
As for your stance, it means nothing. You can feel whatever you want, your emotions can be whatever you wish, but it won't change the fact that (1x GëÑ 2y) is bad for gameplay, and creates a situation where X is always better than Y, leaving no reason to use X in the first place, in turn:
- Removes the purpose of X's existence.
- Removes the diversity DUST is supposed to have, as you need Y to remain competitive.
Though I challenge you, to give me one period in time (barring Uprising 1.7 - Hotfix Bravo) where HAVs, ADSs, or any vehicle couldn't be soloed by a reasonably skilled AVer.
Something I do need to point out however, is your blaring hypocrisy. You claim that AVers shouldn't be allowed to solo you, as you have invested a large amount of SP (which is another idiotic argument), but you want to solo AVers who've invested an equal or proportional amount of SP.
"Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me". <--- Am I right?
Shooter Somewhere wrote:I have a 22mil SP tank on an objective I should not get taken out by one dude with some swarms on a hill above me. You don't like it? Get a tank. (Oh wait no you want it to be COD mode nvm)
If you're on an objective, and you're exposed, then I fail to see why you shouldn't get taken out by someone who brought a counter to your role. Perhaps if you weren't camping the objective and being stationary, you wouldn't have issues with a Swarm Launcher user.
I want "COD Mode"? Surely you can refute my arguments with more than a Strawman, right?
The 1st Matari Commando
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.09.16 11:18:00 -
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I just realized that I forgot to put Handheld Weapon Upgrades on my list.
The 1st Matari Commando
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