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While it sounds amazing on paper, thereGÇÖs a reason most games arenGÇÖt so ambitious: because so much can go wrong. And here, much of it has: anyone fighting the war of Dust 514 will have to contend with banal art design, poor shooting and driving mechanics, and a terrible grind that keeps its most interesting bits out of reach, turning the experience into more of a test of patience than a test of multiplayer skill.

Dust 514 truly aims high with a one-of-a-kind cross-platform endeavor. But such ambition is in vain if you don't have a solid foundation, and Dust's crumbles almost from the get-go. Its wonky mechanics, weak graphics, and microtransaction fueled grind make it numbing to play long enough to explore its depth, and its persistent elements are completely lost on anyone who doesn't already have a foot down in the EVE universe. The ideas behind Dust 514 are clearly strong, but so too is the disappointment when they crumble under the weight of its free-to-play baggage.

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Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 60	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:14:00 - [1] - Quote Destiny is a simpletons FPS. What makes dust great is the variety of fittings and tactics and dynamic team work. This is why I play dust. This is why dust is the only game I've played since last novber when I downloaded it. All you guys saying how much you like destiny... Just move on and send me ur ISK The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 2968	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:15:00 - [2] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: Destiny is a simpletons FPS. And Dust 514 is a masochist's FPS. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 601	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:17:00 - [3] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Bright Steel wrote: Destiny is a simpletons FPS. And Dust 514 is a masochist's FPS. ... And? Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 60	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:18:00 - [4] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Bright Steel wrote: Destiny is a simpletons FPS. And Dust 514 is a masochist's FPS. True but it's the depth of customization that facilitates it. The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3978	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:20:00 - [5] - Quote Why not both? Sometimes, I just want to shoot lots of enemies and feel godlike. Instead of defending broken mechanics in Dust, I can just play some Destiny PvE and get my fix. Sometimes, I want a challenge, and I want to have to think and plan my attacks. That is when I jump on Dust and pull out my MInja. I don't see them as completely direct competitors. I think there is room for in my gaming time for both, and then some. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 34	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:21:00 - [6] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: What makes dust great is the variety of fittings and tactics and dynamic team work. I love the variety of loadouts that heavies can slaughter in a burst.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3144	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:22:00 - [7] - Quote Robots on speeder bikes, doing PVE in open worlds. Rick : And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart. Captain Renault : That is my least vulnerable spot
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1893	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:23:00 - [8] - Quote Dust. Imersion, customization, teamwork. Destiny. Better graphics, everyone a assault, no teamwork, PLANET EXPLORATION. I can be a whiny child in that game, but you wont hear me whiny you just read it. Dust forum. Whiny people, 95%. Logic, 5%. Destiny game in comparison, whiny, childish, not much difference. I want it cause exploring Russia solo is aweome and my friends are there. PSN Sil4ntChaozz Autistic Skater & Amatuer Parkour Practitioner Define Minja- Surgeon, Chef, Badass
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 60	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:24:00 - [9] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Bright Steel wrote: What makes dust great is the variety of fittings and tactics and dynamic team work. I love the variety of loadouts that heavies can slaughter in a burst. You mean the variety of load outs that slaughter heavies with a burst??? The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
Cenex Langly Dude.Man.Bro 805	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:25:00 - [10] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Bright Steel wrote: Destiny is a simpletons FPS. And Dust 514 is a masochist's FPS. True but it's the depth of customization that facilitates it. Destiny is FUN to play... Need there be any more requirement for a game? DUST is rage inducing and miserable to play with all the broken mechanics, lagged out frame rate, rubber banding lag, invisible one shot kill non-sense... Yeah. That's so much fun.. NOT. Simply put it Destiny is MORE FUN to play than DUST. And that is all a game really needs to be, is FUN TO PLAY. Newb

Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 60	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:28:00 - [11] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Bright Steel wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Bright Steel wrote: Destiny is a simpletons FPS. And Dust 514 is a masochist's FPS. True but it's the depth of customization that facilitates it. Destiny is FUN to play... Need there be any more requirement for a game? DUST is rage inducing and miserable to play with all the broken mechanics, lagged out frame rate, rubber banding lag, invisible one shot kill non-sense... Yeah. That's so much fun.. NOT. Simply put it Destiny is MORE FUN to play than DUST. And that is all a game really needs to be, is FUN TO PLAY. So go play it! I posted this cause I was tired of ready about destiny on the DUST FORUM. The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 34	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:31:00 - [12] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Bright Steel wrote: What makes dust great is the variety of fittings and tactics and dynamic team work. I love the variety of loadouts that heavies can slaughter in a burst. You mean the variety of load outs that slaughter heavies with a burst??? Oh you mean the ones with Forge Guns, Plasma Cannons or Railgun turrets
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 60	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:33:00 - [13] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Bright Steel wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Bright Steel wrote: What makes dust great is the variety of fittings and tactics and dynamic team work. I love the variety of loadouts that heavies can slaughter in a burst. You mean the variety of load outs that slaughter heavies with a burst??? Oh you mean the ones with Forge Guns, Plasma Cannons or Railgun turrets And scout with NK, RR, RE, SG, and more. Tactics beats any weapon The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17625	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:36:00 - [14] - Quote I consider not bugging out every 5 minutes to be a major selling point for Destiny in comparison to DUST. Flying to new horizons.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1497	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:39:00 - [15] - Quote We were talking amongst squadmates last night and arrived that the following conclusion: Dust would be a much better game if it used the Destiny engine and all the character development/customization of Dust.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3982	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:46:00 - [16] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: We were talking amongst squadmates last night and arrived that the following conclusion: Dust would be a much better game if it used the Destiny engine and all the character development/customization of Dust. Not to mention those mechanics. They are so smooth. No spring glitches or spawning in walls etc. If Dust could just smooth out those wrinkles (which I understand would be a ton of work), it would be freaking amazing. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 62	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:48:00 - [17] - Quote Just read my signature, says it all The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
Death Shadow117 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 438	Posted - 2014.09.10 19:52:00 - [18] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: Destiny is a simpletons FPS. What makes dust great is the variety of fittings and tactics and dynamic team work. This is why I play dust. This is why dust is the only game I've played since last novber when I downloaded it. All you guys saying how much you like destiny... Just move on and send me ur ISK you think they are goinv to stay on destiny after they beat it you mustve been dropped on your head when you were a child. Once they beat it theyll come crawling back ans be unable to play. Remove marijuana from blocked words list.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4621	Posted - 2014.09.10 20:44:00 - [19] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: Destiny is a simpletons FPS. What makes dust great is the variety of fittings and tactics and dynamic team work. This is why I play dust. This is why dust is the only game I've played since last novber when I downloaded it. All you guys saying how much you like destiny... Just move on and send me ur ISK Yet 80-90% of matches are filled with solo players. There was a time when there were at least 2 partial squads on each side of a battle. Now it's usually 1 squad and solo vs a bunch of solo. It's a shame, because team play is where Dust shines. Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 942	Posted - 2014.09.10 21:00:00 - [20] - Quote I can see how Destiny is appalling to some players. But for hardcore PVPers like me, Destiny sucks balls. For all the flaws Dust has it is at least still challenging and I still hate to die in Dust. All other fps games I have played they carry no risk, zero real loss and death means nothing. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.

Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 1869	Posted - 2014.09.10 21:08:00 - [21] - Quote Of course dust is better, destiny just has a lot more shiny things. If dust had pve like destiny trust me I'd be playing it right now. Destiny for pve, dust for PvP is how I'm doing it. Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 170	Posted - 2014.09.10 21:17:00 - [22] - Quote Destiny is more like a modern version of borderlands crossed with halo. It has PVE .and lots of it Free roam story missions Wave mode And a decent selection of brutal mindless slaughter pvp. Dust is a expansive tactical fps It's pvp only Every death costs It's a good deal more serious of a game..serious games always cause rage..but dust is and has always been held back by all its issues. Probably ccp inexperience with fps' s showing there Dust is a completely different type of fps. That being said dust devs are terrible the game has major issues and destiny is a nice breath of fresh air. But I'll bb and so will my laser rifle no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 1121	Posted - 2014.09.10 21:32:00 - [23] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: I can see how Destiny is appalling to some players. But for hardcore PVPers like me, Destiny sucks balls. For all the flaws Dust has it is at least still challenging and I still hate to die in Dust. All other fps games I have played they carry no risk, zero real loss and death means nothing. Dust is not challenging at all. Keep fooling yourself.
HYENAKILLER X WILL FIGHT ANYONE 844	Posted - 2014.09.10 21:56:00 - [24] - Quote Lol the ign guys literally had a 7 minute talk about how everyone hated destiny but they loved it. It is mediocre, homoginized and poorly presented. Ign knows it. CCP <3. My only complaint was vehicles.
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 672	Posted - 2014.09.10 22:02:00 - [25] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Lol the ign guys literally had a 7 minute talk about how everyone hated destiny but they loved it. It is mediocre, homoginized and poorly presented. Ign knows it. What did IGN say about Dust 514? Oh yeah this, MAY 29, 2013 Quote: While it sounds amazing on paper, thereGÇÖs a reason most games arenGÇÖt so ambitious: because so much can go wrong. And here, much of it has: anyone fighting the war of Dust 514 will have to contend with banal art design, poor shooting and driving mechanics, and a terrible grind that keeps its most interesting bits out of reach, turning the experience into more of a test of patience than a test of multiplayer skill. Dust 514 truly aims high with a one-of-a-kind cross-platform endeavor. But such ambition is in vain if you don't have a solid foundation, and Dust's crumbles almost from the get-go. Its wonky mechanics, weak graphics, and microtransaction fueled grind make it numbing to play long enough to explore its depth, and its persistent elements are completely lost on anyone who doesn't already have a foot down in the EVE universe. The ideas behind Dust 514 are clearly strong, but so too is the disappointment when they crumble under the weight of its free-to-play baggage. Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter BattleDuty 514 Working as intended.
Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD 258	Posted - 2014.09.10 22:10:00 - [26] - Quote Both games have its ups and downs that make it unique yet it will fall short on everyones opinions. Destiny pulls its strengths from story missions, wave after wave of thralls or a pack of Knights make for an epic fight. the Music only helps to make that effect. Dust offers an in depth PvP structure. the amount of things you can do to customize just one class is nearly infinite. Personally I also like how you know who you are facing, and know how they play and try to counter it (as hard as it may be, you all play well XD) Destiny, however, has a PvP mode that I personally think is lacking, its just a simple run and gun game mode for twitch shooters (nothing wrong with that, just not my style) But Dust has no PvE, something that Destiny did extremely well, its structured so that you can't just run and gun, some missions you need a strike team. All in all, you cant compare the two games because they focused on two different parts of a shooter. Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault Adapt or Die!
Aria Gomes The New Age Outlaws 510	Posted - 2014.09.10 22:18:00 - [27] - Quote Destiny is more about having fun and doesn't mind if you lone wolf. Dust is more getting together and working together to acheive the same goal. Honestly, playing Dust made me a better Destiny player because I thought about working with my team rather than lol throwing knife for you, scout rifle for you and a homing grenaee for you. Team players > lone wolves. But yeah two different styles, I loved the beta of Destiny so I definitely will pick it up. Only reason I love Dust is because o my Minja and the friends I have on here that I squad with. Scout community is super tight knit and I love that about Dust. Once I get my PS4 though, I'll probably stick with that ijstead of my PS3. I need something new and I already have 2 games in mind that I want for PS4, maybe a 3rd after I see how the crew is.
Dj grammer New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 361	Posted - 2014.09.10 22:22:00 - [28] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Dust. Imersion, customization, teamwork. Destiny. Better graphics, everyone a assault, no teamwork, PLANET EXPLORATION. I can be a whiny child in that game, but you wont hear me whiny you just read it. Dust forum. Whiny people, 95%. Logic, 5%. Destiny game in comparison, whiny, childish, not much difference. 100% true blue. All I see on the forum is QQing or people trying to grow their e-peen. I play both DUST and DESTINY. I will still play DUST but it needs something new than just the constant SP grind. I have almost 43 million SP so this should tell you how long I was playing this game as well as spent the SP in what I wanted with some problems there of course. Both games have ups and downs. But if you want to know what my biggest turn off for this game is coming from this vet, my turn-off is due to people not knowing what they want or the fact that CCP would make your choices meaningless when they change a good amount of data to your style with no repercussions what-so-ever (counterpoint: in b4 people say respec and this would cause more FoTM which is true you cannot prevent that). Despite the turn off I still play the game but I find myself liking DESTINY, I guess because I did not hit that repetitive state if the game yet (which is a good thing, hell Borderlands 2 managed to hide that with true and ultimate vault hunter modes). Darkness is a Beginning, you see, not an end.
Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD 258	Posted - 2014.09.10 22:30:00 - [29] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Destiny is more about having fun and doesn't mind if you lone wolf. Dust is more getting together and working together to acheive the same goal. Honestly, playing Dust made me a better Destiny player because I thought about working with my team rather than lol throwing knife for you, scout rifle for you and a homing grenaee for you. Team players > lone wolves. But yeah two different styles, I loved the beta of Destiny so I definitely will pick it up. Only reason I love Dust is because o my Minja and the friends I have on here that I squad with. Scout community is super tight knit and I love that about Dust. Once I get my PS4 though, I'll probably stick with that instead of my PS3. I need something new and I already have 2 games in mind that I want for PS4, maybe a 3rd after I see how the crew is. Edit: oh yeah Iron Banner is the mode for us Dust fans. Where whoever has stronger gear will do better etc etc Off topic: Beta round two for the crew was good, they improved on a lot of the fallbacks, would recommend picking it up when it comes out back on topic: Dust is definitely more tactical than Destiny (may be because I lone wolf Destiny) and thats why I like it as a PvP game. Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault Adapt or Die!
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 943	Posted - 2014.09.10 22:40:00 - [30] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: I can see how Destiny is appealing to some players. But for hardcore PVPers like me, Destiny sucks balls. For all the flaws Dust has it is at least still challenging and I still hate to die in Dust. All other fps games I have played they carry no risk, zero real loss and death means nothing. Dust is not challenging at all. Keep fooling yourself. It is more challenging than most fps games and it is the only one with any kind of value associated with death. Dust and EVE are the only two games I have played where dieing means something and assets are lost. Most other games there is no loss when you die so it means nothing and thus they are boring games to me. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.



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