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Chimichanga66605 wrote:

Rusty Shallows wrote:

Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Rusty Shallows wrote:

Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened.

player counts are per 15 minutes, so if you log out you don't show up in the next cycle.

When I ponder fittings it takes at least 20-45 mins

What class or how many classes of fits?

Mine are separate accounts and it's different for each.

Post Hotfix Charlie the changes for the Minja ALT practically did themselves. Only three in that list. At most less than an hour total looking at and tweaking possible fits as higher level module options open up.

The Logi ALT hit detection with the Toxin SMG has been getting worse. After trying out the Assault CR on a friends character I ditched the current plan and join Rifles 514. Which has meant hours of fiddling between game sessions and trying out other peoples ideas from Comms.

The Sentinel Main is still in semi-retirement but will probably get back out after the Burst HMG is nerfed. But that hasn't stop me from hours of careful deliberation. The correct fatty for each combat role, no settling for second best or ad hock solutions.

If any list gets over ten fits I try to trim them down. Having extras feels like dead weight.

I myself have 5 proto suits, 7 proto weapons, and 2 bonus ADV suits to **** around with. 20-45 mins is no where near enough time to "ponder my fits."

Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle

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deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 952	Posted - 2014.09.09 21:33:00 - [1] - Quote With Destiny being released today we are about 12-1500 players online below the average at the time that I am posting this. The truly funny stat to that tho is that new player creation is down by over 50% meaning that really all the people that left are the scrubs who can not even make ISK without creating and farming new characters. Thank you Bungie for calling away the scrubs none of us care about so they can shoot their nickelodeon characters.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3128	Posted - 2014.09.09 21:37:00 - [2] - Quote Making a comparison of player counts on release day of a new game is not very conclusive. Of course people are going to be playing Destiny, it's a new toy. Give it a few weeks then do a count to see what the playercount looks like then once the novelty has worn off. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 3054	Posted - 2014.09.09 21:49:00 - [3] - Quote It might be different this time though, a lot of players are tired of the way dust is going or went and destiny is the first good game to come out since May so a lot of the people that left won't come back with how displeased they are with CCP. Some will come back to play casually but I don't think the numbers will be back at 4000+ ever again, probably 3500 or so. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3130	Posted - 2014.09.09 21:55:00 - [4] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: It might be different this time though, a lot of players are tired of the way dust is going or went and destiny is the first good game to come out since May so a lot of the people that left won't come back with how displeased they are with CCP. Some will come back to play casually but I don't think the numbers will be back at 4000+ ever again, probably 3500 or so. Well that may turn out to be true, but using release day player counts as a measuring stick just isn't reliable. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16390	Posted - 2014.09.09 22:46:00 - [5] - Quote As of this posting 3151 players currently online 24 hours ago 2849 players online CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 411	Posted - 2014.09.09 22:51:00 - [6] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Making a comparison of player counts on release day of a new game is not very conclusive. Of course people are going to be playing Destiny, it's a new toy. Give it a few weeks then do a count to see what the playercount looks like then once the novelty has worn off. i want to like this more than once soo. LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE SLAYER.
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2133	Posted - 2014.09.09 22:51:00 - [7] - Quote Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened. Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16390	Posted - 2014.09.09 22:53:00 - [8] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened. player counts are per 15 minutes, so if you log out you don't show up in the next cycle. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3134	Posted - 2014.09.09 23:00:00 - [9] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened. player counts are per 15 minutes, so if you log out you don't show up in the next cycle. SCIENCE, *****! Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2135	Posted - 2014.09.09 23:13:00 - [10] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened. player counts are per 15 minutes, so if you log out you don't show up in the next cycle. SCIENCE, *****! Technology actually, science would be studying peoples or populations behaviors. Citing the technical would be helpful (for me) because it's pretty common for companies to be less than honest. Still likely two false positives for today. Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16391	Posted - 2014.09.09 23:16:00 - [11] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened. player counts are per 15 minutes, so if you log out you don't show up in the next cycle. SCIENCE, *****! Technology actually, science would be studying peoples or populations behaviors. Citing the technical would be helpful (for me) because it's pretty common for companies to be less than honest. Still likely two false positives for today. False Positive API error experienced back before launch where it accidentally counted 9,000+ players at a low time. True Positive API read that has been consistent for months with very little deviation in expected patterns with little rhyme or reason. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3134	Posted - 2014.09.09 23:23:00 - [12] - Quote I just wanted to quote Braking Bad Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2135	Posted - 2014.09.09 23:26:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened. player counts are per 15 minutes, so if you log out you don't show up in the next cycle. SCIENCE, *****! Technology actually, science would be studying peoples or populations behaviors. Citing the technical would be helpful (for me) because it's pretty common for companies to be less than honest. Still likely two false positives for today. False Positive API error experienced back before launch where it accidentally counted 9,000+ players at a low time. True Positive API read that has been consistent for months with very little deviation in expected patterns with little rhyme or reason. The Player count is used to make a claim of game health. When x number of people are not actually playing the game those are False Potitives (Type I errors). The daily cap creates statically bias which leads to false claims. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_and_type_II_errors Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game
Riruodo Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 92	Posted - 2014.09.09 23:28:00 - [14] - Quote there's also school, don't forget. if you were online during the morning you won't see as many players online. My other car is Utena
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16392	Posted - 2014.09.09 23:34:00 - [15] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: The Player count is used to make a claim of game health. When x number of people are not actually playing the game those are False Potitives (Type I errors). The daily cap creates statically bias which leads to false claims. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_and_type_II_errors Then don't try to sell a phase without complete context for that itself was a 'false positive'. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2135	Posted - 2014.09.09 23:40:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: The Player count is used to make a claim of game health. When x number of people are not actually playing the game those are False Potitives (Type I errors). The daily cap creates statically bias which leads to false claims. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_and_type_II_errors Then don't try to sell a phase without complete context for that itself was a 'false positive'. Touch+¬ How about a deal? Refrain from using obviously false numbers and I won't get all uppity about misused statistics. Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16395	Posted - 2014.09.10 00:19:00 - [17] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: The Player count is used to make a claim of game health. When x number of people are not actually playing the game those are False Potitives (Type I errors). The daily cap creates statically bias which leads to false claims. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_and_type_II_errors Then don't try to sell a phase without complete context for that itself was a 'false positive'. Touch+¬ How about a deal? Refrain from using obviously false numbers and I won't get all uppity about misused statistics. I would use actual numbers but they're NDA'ed. :( They're pretty good looking despite that including the numbers breakdowns. Dust 'offline' is so that the closest thing to a publically measurable numbers. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 105	Posted - 2014.09.10 01:43:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened. player counts are per 15 minutes, so if you log out you don't show up in the next cycle. When I ponder fittings it takes at least 20-45 mins Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2136	Posted - 2014.09.10 02:13:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Touch+¬ How about a deal? Refrain from using obviously false numbers and I won't get all uppity about misused statistics. I would use actual numbers but they're NDA'ed. :( They're pretty good looking despite that including the numbers breakdowns. Dust 'offline' is so that the closest thing to a publically measurable numbers. Fair enough, you cannot be blamed for their bureaucratic tomfoolery. The unfortunate takeaway is there is no way to prove anything. Which makes my inner-statistician a sad camper. Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 989	Posted - 2014.09.10 02:27:00 - [20] - Quote lol dust still having an nda post fanfest fiasco Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.

Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2137	Posted - 2014.09.10 02:34:00 - [21] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened. player counts are per 15 minutes, so if you log out you don't show up in the next cycle. When I ponder fittings it takes at least 20-45 mins What class or how many classes of fits? Mine are separate accounts and it's different for each. Post Hotfix Charlie the changes for the Minja ALT practically did themselves. Only three in that list. At most less than an hour total looking at and tweaking possible fits as higher level module options open up. The Logi ALT hit detection with the Toxin SMG has been getting worse. After trying out the Assault CR on a friends character I ditched the current plan and join Rifles 514. Which has meant hours of fiddling between game sessions and trying out other peoples ideas from Comms. The Sentinel Main is still in semi-retirement but will probably get back out after the Burst HMG is nerfed. But that hasn't stop me from hours of careful deliberation. The correct fatty for each combat role, no settling for second best or ad hock solutions. If any list gets over ten fits I try to trim them down. Having extras feels like dead weight. Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16399	Posted - 2014.09.10 02:58:00 - [22] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Touch+¬ How about a deal? Refrain from using obviously false numbers and I won't get all uppity about misused statistics. I would use actual numbers but they're NDA'ed. :( They're pretty good looking despite that including the numbers breakdowns. Dust 'offline' is so that the closest thing to a publically measurable numbers. Fair enough, you cannot be blamed for their bureaucratic tomfoolery. The unfortunate takeaway is there is no way to prove anything. Which makes my inner-statistician a sad camper. It makes me as a gamer mad too. They're numbers you can be proud of. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3540	Posted - 2014.09.10 03:16:00 - [23] - Quote I've been on crunchyroll soo, no you can't have my isk I'm not leaving till halo anniversary. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 234	Posted - 2014.09.10 03:40:00 - [24] - Quote Destiny first good game 4 v 4
HYENAKILLER X WILL FIGHT ANYONE 844	Posted - 2014.09.10 05:45:00 - [25] - Quote In defense of the players who have I will say its always cool to try something new. But destiny is just so mediocre in presentation that one has to think that though destiny has pulled our scrubs, it might also be harder to purchase drugs in dust now because those clowns are high as hell for thinking that sht looks cool. CCP <3. My only complaint was vehicles.
Chimichanga66605 Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 187	Posted - 2014.09.10 07:00:00 - [26] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened. player counts are per 15 minutes, so if you log out you don't show up in the next cycle. When I ponder fittings it takes at least 20-45 mins What class or how many classes of fits? Mine are separate accounts and it's different for each. Post Hotfix Charlie the changes for the Minja ALT practically did themselves. Only three in that list. At most less than an hour total looking at and tweaking possible fits as higher level module options open up. The Logi ALT hit detection with the Toxin SMG has been getting worse. After trying out the Assault CR on a friends character I ditched the current plan and join Rifles 514. Which has meant hours of fiddling between game sessions and trying out other peoples ideas from Comms. The Sentinel Main is still in semi-retirement but will probably get back out after the Burst HMG is nerfed. But that hasn't stop me from hours of careful deliberation. The correct fatty for each combat role, no settling for second best or ad hock solutions. If any list gets over ten fits I try to trim them down. Having extras feels like dead weight. I myself have 5 proto suits, 7 proto weapons, and 2 bonus ADV suits to **** around with. 20-45 mins is no where near enough time to "ponder my fits." Mk.0 Specialist, Republic Loyalist "Badassery is not born, but often thrust upon you." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 107	Posted - 2014.09.10 07:14:00 - [27] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened. player counts are per 15 minutes, so if you log out you don't show up in the next cycle. When I ponder fittings it takes at least 20-45 mins What class or how many classes of fits? Mine are separate accounts and it's different for each. Post Hotfix Charlie the changes for the Minja ALT practically did themselves. Only three in that list. At most less than an hour total looking at and tweaking possible fits as higher level module options open up. The Logi ALT hit detection with the Toxin SMG has been getting worse. After trying out the Assault CR on a friends character I ditched the current plan and join Rifles 514. Which has meant hours of fiddling between game sessions and trying out other peoples ideas from Comms. The Sentinel Main is still in semi-retirement but will probably get back out after the Burst HMG is nerfed. But that hasn't stop me from hours of careful deliberation. The correct fatty for each combat role, no settling for second best or ad hock solutions. If any list gets over ten fits I try to trim them down. Having extras feels like dead weight. All only Gal scout (since day one), and I have about 10 plus fits for different situations. Also have a basic or militia Min light with links I think but don't remember if I deleted it. Have a Heavy alt for Amarr (day one also) with a number of fits for hmg and forge gun. By the way: I said at least but I do end up testing different ways to play sometimes from log in to down time. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 107	Posted - 2014.09.10 07:16:00 - [28] - Quote Chimichanga66605 wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Three of the player count for today are false positives. I logged on for the daily cap and to ponder fittings. No actual game play happened. player counts are per 15 minutes, so if you log out you don't show up in the next cycle. When I ponder fittings it takes at least 20-45 mins What class or how many classes of fits? Mine are separate accounts and it's different for each. Post Hotfix Charlie the changes for the Minja ALT practically did themselves. Only three in that list. At most less than an hour total looking at and tweaking possible fits as higher level module options open up. The Logi ALT hit detection with the Toxin SMG has been getting worse. After trying out the Assault CR on a friends character I ditched the current plan and join Rifles 514. Which has meant hours of fiddling between game sessions and trying out other peoples ideas from Comms. The Sentinel Main is still in semi-retirement but will probably get back out after the Burst HMG is nerfed. But that hasn't stop me from hours of careful deliberation. The correct fatty for each combat role, no settling for second best or ad hock solutions. If any list gets over ten fits I try to trim them down. Having extras feels like dead weight. I myself have 5 proto suits, 7 proto weapons, and 2 bonus ADV suits to **** around with. 20-45 mins is no where near enough time to "ponder my fits." Read description for proto suit and weapons. At least for this guy as I count both heavy and scout account as my mains. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle


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