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PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1877	Posted - 2014.09.09 05:54:00 - [1] - Quote I'd thought id never see the day, and be more happy if i didnt. Actually no. o7 to all the original mothereffers who ran scout and terrorized the battlefield, and to the amarr and caladari FOTM scouts, a giant eff you. As ive said, and doc informed me (o7 doc) there wasnt much QQ OMG its OP shotgun fa-fabulous people BEFORE 1.8. And the few who were trying to use logic before 1.8, were completely shut down. I have become a slightly bitter 'vet' because i was one of them who complained and cried about scanner514 and didnt have the means to counter it. I want to become unbitter. Now i feel bad cause i was one of them help with the changes by complaining. But its funny. Your tears are so depressing and funny at the same time. And no i dont no life dust anymore, and i try not to complaining thanks to Tech, about things that make me agitated. And to all 1.8 gal cloak shotgun fabs, we wore it first, and will always were it better. YEAH IM STATING THE OBVIOUS SO WHAT?!! Im off to play TF2 and use a OP shotgun scout or a equally OP cloak and OP knife. KB/MPAD FTW and challenging. PSN Sil4ntChaozz Anything you can do a RAPTOR can do better Scout Devotee with moments of FACEPALM
gustavo acosta Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 238	Posted - 2014.09.09 06:04:00 - [2] - Quote Can I haves your isk? Edit: I ran ewar gal scout before 1.8when it was fun and challenging plz donate Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1877	Posted - 2014.09.09 06:09:00 - [3] - Quote No. Im not leaving, i just am doing my best to not get rage at a game. Having more fun, of course ill get competitive for PC but i just remember to have fun and proud to be on the scout registry. PSN Sil4ntChaozz Autistic Skater & Amatuer Parkour Practitioner Scout Devotee BEFORE 1.8
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1877	Posted - 2014.09.09 06:13:00 - [4] - Quote My point. Stop complaining, have fun. Its a game, ment to entertain and enjoy playing. Unless im missing the big picture, which i haveva habit of doing i think i might be right. PSN Sil4ntChaozz Autistic Skater & Amatuer Parkour Practitioner Scout Devotee BEFORE 1.8
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 467	Posted - 2014.09.09 06:26:00 - [5] - Quote So the scout who shotguns/nova knifes me in the back enuf times I remember him is now saying scouts are op? try a commando I've been doin it lately, grab a high point and bang bang bang dead scout, repeat. Got hatemail from a mimitar scout I kept killing from about 50m ( he was runnin a cloak/shotgun/nk combo ) good times. Lonewolf till I die
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1878	Posted - 2014.09.09 06:36:00 - [6] - Quote Just regurgitation of what im zeeing with my own tweaks. Ive tried commando, love it. Seriously? Im known outside of forums. I HAVE A REPUTATION WOOOOOO! Yeah been alternatating tween shotgun and knife. Fun. commando fun too, and min assault. PSN Sil4ntChaozz Autistic Skater & Amatuer Parkour Practitioner Scout Devotee BEFORE 1.8
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 468	Posted - 2014.09.09 06:37:00 - [7] - Quote COMMANDO IS OP!!! Lonewolf till I die
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 801	Posted - 2014.09.09 12:40:00 - [8] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: So the scout who shotguns/nova knifes me in the back enuf times I remember him is now saying scouts are op? try a commando I've been doin it lately, grab a high point and bang bang bang dead scout, repeat. Got hatemail from a mimitar scout I kept killing from about 50m ( he was runnin a cloak/shotgun/nk combo ) good times. Your problem is that the OP is one of the worst scouts in New Eden. I feel sorry for you if the OP is causing you problems. All the decent scouts must be raping you?
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 746	Posted - 2014.09.09 12:41:00 - [9] - Quote Quote: Im off to play TF2 Quote: challenging you truly have lost your marbles mate :P Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 344	Posted - 2014.09.09 13:01:00 - [10] - Quote Try a melee Min scout. It has kept me entertained for over 4 months & counting. I only bust out my Gal scout now, when I run into too many FOTM scouts.

Death Shadow117 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 414	Posted - 2014.09.09 13:10:00 - [11] - Quote Givw me isk plz. Remove marijuana from blocked words list.
Joel II X Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3313	Posted - 2014.09.09 14:07:00 - [12] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Just regurgitation of what im zeeing with my own tweaks. Ive tried commando, love it. Seriously? Im known outside of forums. I HAVE A REPUTATION WOOOOOO! Yeah been alternatating tween shotgun and knife. Fun. commando fun too, and min assault. I've noticed you, too, kouhai. Think we only played one match together, though. Don't remember.
Dreis Shadowweaver D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 149	Posted - 2014.09.09 16:46:00 - [13] - Quote Scouts ARE op, though. Join the 'Nova Knifers United' chat channel I've only ever known 1.8... Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Hector Carson Hellz Gate of Awakening 7	Posted - 2014.09.09 16:58:00 - [14] - Quote I agree 1000% Scouts are OP, but what more can they do, Scouts are mainly for pointing out targets for the squad there with, Plus they need to get a bonus for sniping for that is what there technically suppose to be for, I also believe they need to nerf the scout so they can't use a shotgun. Also to add to this they need to make the Pilot Drop suit available, its been sitting there empty for a while now.
KIRSTY j The Walking Targets 75	Posted - 2014.09.09 17:09:00 - [15] - Quote i think they need to increase the hit box on scout suits. it's the only suit that can run head on into gun fire and kill 3 guys without taking any real damage. some scouts just can't be killed. seen some crazy scores as well. 49/1 really.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1880	Posted - 2014.09.09 18:31:00 - [16] - Quote Tech De Ra wrote: Quote: Im off to play TF2 Quote: challenging you truly have lost your marbles mate :P On a laptop with no mouse, it is challenging. PSN Sil4ntChaozz Autistic Skater & Amatuer Parkour Practitioner Scout Devotee BEFORE 1.8
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 615	Posted - 2014.09.09 18:37:00 - [17] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: So the scout who shotguns/nova knifes me in the back enuf times I remember him is now saying scouts are op? try a commando I've been doin it lately, grab a high point and bang bang bang dead scout, repeat. Got hatemail from a mimitar scout I kept killing from about 50m ( he was runnin a cloak/shotgun/nk combo ) good times. Your problem is that the OP is one of the worst scouts in New Eden. I feel sorry for you if the OP is causing you problems. All the decent scouts must be raping you? Seems like you took a PLC to the knee Quafe A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does, So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
Kira Takizawa UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E 199	Posted - 2014.09.09 20:06:00 - [18] - Quote Trying to be a non-bitter vet is difficult... but I will miss knifing with you Park
Joel II X Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3321	Posted - 2014.09.09 20:06:00 - [19] - Quote KIRSTY j wrote: i think they need to increase the hit box on scout suits. it's the only suit that can run head on into gun fire and kill 3 guys without taking any real damage. some scouts just can't be killed. seen some crazy scores as well. 49/1 really. Actually, those scores only come up against scrub teams. Check YouTybe for reference. All those guys doing extremely well are against MLT dudes from academy lol and the ones that post pc matches have a few more deaths and fewer kills than in pubs. Anyways, it's not that our hitbox should be increased, it's that the game should be optimized a bit better. Trust me on that one.
Aria Gomes The New Age Outlaws 500	Posted - 2014.09.09 20:17:00 - [20] - Quote DTOracle wrote: Try a melee Min scout. It has kept me entertained for over 4 months & counting. I only bust out my Gal scout now, when I run into too many FOTM scouts. You made me mad the other night in that melee suit. I just put on a frontline with a breach AR & ZN-28 Nova Knives.

Cheydinhal Guard Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 193	Posted - 2014.09.09 20:22:00 - [21] - Quote Lol. People like you always put a smile on my face. " I'm better then you because I've been running this suit since day -1. If you skill into anything before or after a buff/nerf you're a FOTM loser". If people skilled into one thing and only one thing, this game wouldn't have any diversity. Try to keep that in mind. IshKnoks or go home. I demand a rapid reload skill for knives!!
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 213	Posted - 2014.09.09 20:26:00 - [22] - Quote i ran ewar gal scouts in chrome and got laughed at gamers are fickle lets just burn this motherfucker down pew pew goes my scram rifle zap zap goes my scram pistol vizzzzzzz goes my laser
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 215	Posted - 2014.09.09 20:27:00 - [23] - Quote There nothing op in this game other than strafing. Don't know about vehicles, but it's strafing that's op. Especially those freakin strafing caldari scouts with either six skin ACR or a viziam. Freakin hate them. The Blazing Intellect Machine
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 819	Posted - 2014.09.09 20:28:00 - [24] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: COMMANDO IS OP!!! commando is gimp.. they are fat and slow and more of a bullet magnet then sentinels.. [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah What ever happened to buffing Logi eHP in Delta?!
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 213	Posted - 2014.09.09 20:33:00 - [25] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: COMMANDO IS OP!!! commando is gimp.. they are fat and slow and more of a bullet magnet then sentinels.. aint that the truth, when i slip on my ak.0 or neo ak.0 i feel like ive got a big neon sign above my head saying put this muppet out of his misery lets just burn this motherfucker down pew pew goes my scram rifle zap zap goes my scram pistol vizzzzzzz goes my laser
Elaina Everdark Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2014.09.09 20:35:00 - [26] - Quote Hector Carson wrote: I agree 1000% Scouts are OP, but what more can they do, Scouts are mainly for pointing out targets for the squad there with, Plus they need to get a bonus for sniping for that is what there technically suppose to be for, I also believe they need to nerf the scout so they can't use a shotgun. Also to add to this they need to make the Pilot Drop suit available, its been sitting there empty for a while now. So if scouts can't/don't use the shotgun, who will? Maybe two or three die-hards running speed tanked minsault, and a heavy or two for laughs, but other than that, no one would end up using them... And if taking the shotgun would be your idea of a nerf to the scouts, wouldn't it make more sense to just change/fix the shotgun...? "Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but rising every time we fall" ~Confucius
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1883	Posted - 2014.09.09 21:01:00 - [27] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: Lol. People like you always put a smile on my face. " I'm better then you because I've been running this suit since day -1. If you skill into anything before or after a buff/nerf you're a FOTM loser". If people skilled into one thing and only one thing, this game wouldn't have any diversity. Try to keep that in mind. Im addressing the QQers. We are better as in we know how the suit works cause we've been using it longer, long before 1.8. Not 'oh im better' if you happen to want to skill into it after, like the suit/role, and stick with it. Just the annoyed scouts that dont knowhow it works and dont try to learn and sit around complain about it that bothers me, Imtrying not to complain here. Did you even read my post or did you just come in with your own premeditated opinion? Besides, people that know me know what im talking about. PSN Sil4ntChaozz Autistic Skater & Amatuer Parkour Practitioner Scout Devotee BEFORE 1.8
Cheydinhal Guard Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 193	Posted - 2014.09.09 21:16:00 - [28] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: Lol. People like you always put a smile on my face. " I'm better then you because I've been running this suit since day -1. If you skill into anything before or after a buff/nerf you're a FOTM loser". If people skilled into one thing and only one thing, this game wouldn't have any diversity. Try to keep that in mind. Im addressing the QQers. We are better as in we know how the suit works cause we've been using it longer, long before 1.8. Not 'oh im better' if you happen to want to skill into it after, like the suit/role, and stick with it. Just the annoyed scouts that dont knowhow it works and dont try to learn and sit around complain about it that bothers me, Imtrying not to complain here. Did you even read my post or did you just come in with your own premeditated opinion? Besides, people that know me know what im talking about. Oh i read your post. The fact that you reiterate "before 1.8" over and over again just gives off the impression that you think you're better then the new scouts because you skilled into scouts before them. And then there is that logical fallacy that ALL Cal and Amarr scouts are FoTM followers, even the ones who skilled into them long before they became FoTM, and even the RPers. Nice generalization. IshKnoks or go home. I demand a rapid reload skill for knives!!
Varoth Drac The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 220	Posted - 2014.09.09 21:21:00 - [29] - Quote Peed off with people continually saying scouts are OP. I suggest 2 things to solve the problem. 1) reduce the cloak fitting requirements by 75% and remove the scout cloak bonus. Ok, so cloaked assaults will be a pain for noobs, but at least everyone will be able to see they aren't some kind of I win button and are actually quite balanced. Maybe increase decloak delay as well, though I don't see it making a huge difference. 2) Reduce shotgun damage by about 30-40%. At the same time, increase by the same margin the rate of fire, clip size and max ammo. Also increase the range by 300%. This should reduce it's effectiveness as an alpha damage weapon, make it viable for suits other than scout, increase the power gap between std and pro shotguns and give nova knives a more defined role rather than just being inferior assassin weapons to shotguns that people only use because they are bored of shotgunning. Do these things and IMO Scouts=fixed. QQ will never cease however, so maybe there is no point.
Mejt0 The Only Survivor. 459	Posted - 2014.09.09 23:40:00 - [30] - Quote Another one that thinks that he's better because he skilled into something before somome. Scouts are viable. People have fun with them so they use them. Why would somone play with something that he doesn't like? Here's the anwser. It's fun to be able to play (without being stomped) and mess around in scout suit. Ps. pre 1.8 scouts were so rare, that it was hard to find one per few games. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.

Tectonic Fusion 2192	Posted - 2014.09.09 23:53:00 - [31] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'd thought id never see the day, and be more happy if i didnt. Actually no. o7 to all the original mothereffers who ran scout and terrorized the battlefield, and to the amarr and caladari FOTM scouts, a giant eff you. As ive said, and doc informed me (o7 doc) there wasnt much QQ OMG its OP shotgun fa-fabulous people BEFORE 1.8. And the few who were trying to use logic before 1.8, were completely shut down. I have become a slightly bitter 'vet' because i was one of them who complained and cried about scanner514 and didnt have the means to counter it. I want to become unbitter. Now i feel bad cause i was one of them help with the changes by complaining. But its funny. Your tears are so depressing and funny at the same time. And no i dont no life dust anymore, and i try not to complaining thanks to Tech, Tec* (GIF)
Aria Gomes The New Age Outlaws 504	Posted - 2014.09.10 00:09:00 - [32] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Another one that thinks that he's better because he skilled into something before somome. Scouts are viable. People have fun with them so they use them. Why would somone play with something that he doesn't like? Here's the anwser. It's fun to be able to play (without being stomped) and mess around in scout suit. Ps. pre 1.8 scouts were so rare, that it was hard to find one per few games. Pre-1.8 I saw Scouts on a daily but I was also squading with other scouts so the chance to see other scouts were greater I suppose.
Kierkegaard Soren THE HANDS OF DEATH 494	Posted - 2014.09.10 02:07:00 - [33] - Quote Everything would be completely fine and fair if scout passive scan did NOT show the directional facing of all red dots that they can see on the HUD; as many seasoned scout has already (correctly) pointed out, the best hard counter to a cloak are your eyes, and by extension your situational awareness. A cloaked scout that moves I to your field of vision is just patently obvious to anyone who is paying attention. Picking them out and filling them with holes is not hard. The problem is that they know where you are looking, and, being faster and more agile than all other suit types, can always stay behind and out of sight. It's a massive tactical advantage and they need to lose it. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2302	Posted - 2014.09.10 02:09:00 - [34] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Peed off with people continually saying scouts are OP. I suggest 2 things to solve the problem. 1) reduce the cloak fitting requirements by 75% and remove the scout cloak bonus. Ok, so cloaked assaults will be a pain for noobs, but at least everyone will be able to see they aren't some kind of I win button and are actually quite balanced. Maybe increase decloak delay as well, though I don't see it making a huge difference. 2) Reduce shotgun damage by about 30-40%. At the same time, increase by the same margin the rate of fire, clip size and max ammo. Also increase the range by 300%. This should reduce it's effectiveness as an alpha damage weapon, make it viable for suits other than scout, increase the power gap between std and pro shotguns and give nova knives a more defined role rather than just being inferior assassin weapons to shotguns that people only use because they are bored of shotgunning. Do these things and IMO Scouts=fixed. QQ will never cease however, so maybe there is no point. 1) Sure why not? Then everyone can see how useless they are. 2) DONT **** WITH MY BABY. EVER. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
KIRSTY j The Walking Targets 75	Posted - 2014.09.10 02:23:00 - [35] - Quote Joel II X wrote: KIRSTY j wrote: i think they need to increase the hit box on scout suits. it's the only suit that can run head on into gun fire and kill 3 guys without taking any real damage. some scouts just can't be killed. seen some crazy scores as well. 49/1 really. Actually, those scores only come up against scrub teams. Check YouTybe for reference. All those guys doing extremely well are against MLT dudes from academy lol and the ones that post pc matches have a few more deaths and fewer kills than in pubs. Anyways, it's not that our hitbox should be increased, it's that the game should be optimized a bit better. Trust me on that one. i have prof 5 weapons. 3 of us were shooting at a cloaked scout, he ran thou our gun fire killing us all. he still had shield. i was getting red and blue x's so i was hitting him, but didn't really do any damage. this happens every game. does the cloak act like a 2nd shield or something. heavy suits are easier to kill.


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