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Tread Loudly 2
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.09.07 18:57:00 -
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As for right now HAV's are relatively useless in every game mode besides taking out HAV's and ADS's.
However HAV Gëñ LAV GëñAV GëñADS, and it will stay this way until things are changed.
Down below I have the Pro's and Con's of each separate role
Pro's of an ADS:
They have far more mobility
They have far more speed
Area denial
Heavy suppression
AV
Insane DPS when all skills maxed out
Proficiency actually works with their main turret
More skills to help with the operation of the ADS
Can cover the entire map
Can Roadkill infantry quite easily
Con's of an ADS:
Buildings
RDV's
FG's
Expensive
Pro's of a HAV:
Looks scary
Can cover hack panels easily
Con's of a HAV:
Lack of mobility
Can't outrun or dodge AV
No bonus for skilling into operation
Large turret proficiency does not work
Proximity RE's= insta-pop
Can only cover a small portion of the map
It's most powerful turret is not stronger than a FG of the same level
Large Blaster turrets require more luck than they do skill
Can't roadkill infantry easily unless Fuel Injectors are being used
Lack of gravity which leads to countless flips
You can die by rolling through a hilly area if you go slowly
JLAV's
mCRU's spawn unit inside the tank if you do not have seats, which means you TK a lot of people if in FW or PC's
Expensive
Pro's of Lav's:
Can roadkill easily
Fit in tight spaces
Can dodge AV extremely easy
JLAV's
Can assault infantry from afar
Hard to kill
Can drive over proxies with out dying
Con's of Lav's
Driving into tanks
Pro's of using AV:
Can rip most vehicles apart
Can be used as an anti personnel weapon (PLC and FG)
Cost effective
Can sit on top of building and rain **** on infantry and vehicles
Hard to kill from a distance
Hard to spot from a distance
Get's a lot of bonuses when skilling into any form of AV (ex: Lock time, and charge time)
Con's of using AV:
Other infantry
Low mobility
Now which one is the best out of this list?
Well from the statements above I'd have to say it's a tie between AV and ADS's while Hav's are dead last.
Who which one needs a little love?
Well I'd have to say the HAV and maybe Lav's a bit.
How I believe the HAV's could be fixed:
Add in a bonus to skilling into HAV operations giving them a bonus to large turret damage
Add in a Skill for both Caldari and Galente HAV's giving them a reduction to the CPU/PG usage of their respective turrets
Fix Large turret proficiency
Fix mCRU's so that ground units spawn around a tank rather than inside it when there are no seats in the HAV
Bring back the Enforcers/Marauders
Give the HAV realistic gravity as well as fix it's ability to roadkill infantry
How I believe the LAV's could be fixed:
Add in a bonus to skilling into LAV operation, this skill giving them a bonus of 1% small turret damge
Add in a Skill for both Caldari and Galente LAV's giving them a bonus to RoF for their respective turrets
How I believe the AV could be fixed:
Reduce the DPS of the FG
Increase the charge and lock time of all AV but only by .5-1 sec
Increase range of Swarms to 200 Meters as well as reduce FG range to 200 Meters
How I believe the ADS's could be fixed:
Remove skill stacking
Reduce collision damage
Fix RDV's
Make it so they cannot outrun swarms
These are my idea's and if you've read this far thank you and if you don't mind giving me some constructive feedback, or make changes to my proposals.
I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.07 19:18:00 -
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Tread Loudly 2 wrote:
Add in a Skill for both Caldari and Galente HAV's giving them a reduction to the CPU/PG usage of their respective turrets
Increase range of Swarms to 200 Meters as well as reduce FG range to 200 Meters
Isn't that a bit redundant since you can already skill into the Fitting Optimization skill though I suppose it mirrors the assault a little in that aspect.
FG range is fine IMO though the Large rail could use a slight range increase on top of a very minimal heat build up decrease (at least enough to get a 5th shot off putting it in between the heat build of now and before)
Tanker/Logi/Assault
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Tread Loudly 2
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.09.07 20:49:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Tread Loudly 2 wrote:
Add in a Skill for both Caldari and Galente HAV's giving them a reduction to the CPU/PG usage of their respective turrets
Increase range of Swarms to 200 Meters as well as reduce FG range to 200 Meters
Isn't that a bit redundant since you can already skill into the Fitting Optimization skill though I suppose it mirrors the assault a little in that aspect. FG range is fine IMO though the Large rail could use a slight range increase on top of a very minimal heat build up decrease (at least enough to get a 5th shot off putting it in between the heat build of now and before)
I only added that skill in b/c the overall consensus from what I've seen so far is that HAV's should have small turrets and that would allow them to use small turrets w/ out killing the tankiness of the fit. Or I suppose that it could be changed to give Hav's a bonus to Ammo capacity/RoF to mirror that of the ADS skills
While I agree some extra large rail range would be fantastic, I'd much rather see the Swarms, and FG to be a more equal choice in terms of the situation, it would also keep a majority of FG's on super tall towers locking down OBJ's with an AV weapon.
I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.09.07 21:25:00 -
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That's a very selective list of pro's and cons... |
Tread Loudly 2
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.09.07 22:18:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:That's a very selective list of pro's and cons...
How so?
I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
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