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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
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Posted - 2014.09.05 18:22:00 -
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If Call of Duty can do it on a console only experience. There is absolutely no reason it cannot be done in a mk/b focused FPS title with many more control buttons available.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCnoeg_WOko#t=133
B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:44:00 -
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I agree. But capacitor on a suit is something I don't see happening. However, capacitor on a vehicle is something I can definitely see happening.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.05 22:47:00 -
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"But It's complicaaaaateeeeeeeeeeed" -- CCP Z |
ZDub 303
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Posted - 2014.09.05 22:59:00 -
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If the 13 year old COD kiddies can handle it, so can the Dust/Legion community.
This idea of a shared "ability" resource to manage things like active equipment, cloak, propulsion (sprinting and possibly jetpacks maybe?), and possibly active modules like hardeners and repairs would be huge, and almost paramount imo, for balancing.
Its possible to add this is to both dropsuits and vehicles. Stamina is not a hard concept for current Dust players to understand, just building on that concept would work great. It would provide depth for veterans while remaining generally NPE friendly as long as early suits are locked from advanced resource management.
B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.09.08 14:05:00 -
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I can see this being possible for 'powerups'
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.09.08 14:15:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:"But It's complicaaaaateeeeeeeeeeed" -- CCP Z
"It's no sexy" - CCP Z
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Zaria Min Deir
TeamPlayers
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Posted - 2014.09.08 14:19:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:"But It's not sexy" -- CCP Z
Fixed that for you, you're welcome.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
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Posted - 2014.09.08 14:20:00 -
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DAMN YOU CAT
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.08 15:16:00 -
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Copy/Paste EVEs ship fitting/operation mechanics.
Add FPS 'lessons' learned from DUST.
Collect Fanboi monies as fast as Nintendo.
Not that frokking hard shanghai, stop being mouth breathers.
Odd concept I know, but I CAN play EVE,DUST, ANNNND Destiny!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.09.08 16:40:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Copy/Paste EVEs ship fitting/operation mechanics.
Add FPS 'lessons' learned from DUST.
Collect Fanboi monies as fast as Nintendo.
Not that frokking hard shanghai, stop being mouth breathers.
I don't know. Bayonetta looks very sexy in that Samus Costume. I'm planning to get the Wii U one day.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:56:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Copy/Paste EVEs ship fitting/operation mechanics.
Add FPS 'lessons' learned from DUST.
Collect Fanboi monies as fast as Nintendo.
Not that frokking hard shanghai, stop being mouth breathers.
CCP Z would rather focus on a fictitious target audience that cannot comprehend such intricacies, yet still somehow finds their universe appealing. |
Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.09.08 21:21:00 -
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I don't see why not since it might add depth to the gameplay. It was in the weekly updates back during the beta and the devs had a similar idea which I don't think really never happened like a lot of things. The only thing that came close is cloaking and Inertia Dampeners .
There's hardly any abilities that the mercs have on their suits that constitute as futuristic or interesting, many games already do like AW,Crysis,Halo, etc |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.09 03:53:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Copy/Paste EVEs ship fitting/operation mechanics.
Add FPS 'lessons' learned from DUST.
Collect Fanboi monies as fast as Nintendo.
Not that frokking hard shanghai, stop being mouth breathers. CCP Z would rather focus on a fictitious target audience that cannot comprehend such intricacies, yet still somehow finds their universe appealing.
Your audience Z, if you haven't figured it out by now, is us r-tards who came to dust looking for EVE:BATTLEFIELDS. Not some watered down "american" lager of a shooter that breaks most of EVEs continuity and lore by tying in elements from twitch shooters and over-simplistic game mechanics.
You're French, you make things over-complicated. TAP INTO YOUR HERITAGE!
Odd concept I know, but I CAN play EVE,DUST, ANNNND Destiny!
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.09 03:59:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Copy/Paste EVEs ship fitting/operation mechanics.
Add FPS 'lessons' learned from DUST.
Collect Fanboi monies as fast as Nintendo.
Not that frokking hard shanghai, stop being mouth breathers. I don't know. Bayonetta looks very sexy in that Samus Costume. I'm planning to get the Wii U one day.
also this is for you Maken:Bayonette
Odd concept I know, but I CAN play EVE,DUST, ANNNND Destiny!
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Ghural
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.09.09 11:08:00 -
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I think it would be a terrible idea.
Excuse me whilst I go recharge my futuristic suit after 30 seconds of use for some dumb reason. |
ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
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Posted - 2014.09.09 12:33:00 -
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Ghural wrote:I think it would be a terrible idea.
Excuse me whilst I go recharge my futuristic suit after 30 seconds of use for some dumb reason.
You must hate how cloak has to recharge then? Do you believe cloak should never have had a timer in the first place?
B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.09 16:41:00 -
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Ghural wrote:I think it would be a terrible idea.
Excuse me whilst I go recharge my futuristic suit after 30 seconds of use for some dumb reason.
Yeah, damn fundamental laws of physics and dynamics ruining our futuristic space shooter.
Odd concept I know, but I CAN play EVE,DUST, ANNNND Destiny!
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.11 00:10:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Copy/Paste EVEs ship fitting/operation mechanics.
Add FPS 'lessons' learned from DUST.
Collect Fanboi monies as fast as Nintendo.
Not that frokking hard shanghai, stop being mouth breathers. CCP Z would rather focus on a fictitious target audience that cannot comprehend such intricacies, yet still somehow finds their universe appealing. Your audience Z, if you haven't figured it out by now, is us r-tards who came to dust looking for EVE:BATTLEFIELDS. Not some watered down "american" lager of a shooter that breaks most of EVEs continuity and lore by tying in elements from twitch shooters and over-simplistic game mechanics. You're French, you make things over-complicated. TAP INTO YOUR HERITAGE!
I agree. Surrender to the masses on this one. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.09.12 00:00:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I agree. But capacitor on a suit is something I don't see happening. However, capacitor on a vehicle is something I can definitely see happening.
Still wouldn't work. I've already explained why. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.09.12 00:04:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Ghural wrote:I think it would be a terrible idea.
Excuse me whilst I go recharge my futuristic suit after 30 seconds of use for some dumb reason. You must hate how cloak has to recharge then? Do you believe cloak should never have had a timer in the first place?
That's not how cap works in EVE, as you people said you want. Tie in Sprinting, shooting, and almost every other active module into that. Then you're going to have to do FPS combat on top of that. |
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
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Posted - 2014.09.12 02:07:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Ghural wrote:I think it would be a terrible idea.
Excuse me whilst I go recharge my futuristic suit after 30 seconds of use for some dumb reason. You must hate how cloak has to recharge then? Do you believe cloak should never have had a timer in the first place? That's not how cap works in EVE, as you people said you want. Tie in Sprinting, shooting, and almost every other active module into that. Then you're going to have to do FPS combat on top of that.
Its not that far off from how capacitor works.
The major differences between capacitor in eve and how cloak works is that your regen is stopped while cloak is active and you regenerate cloak linearly and not using an arcsin function.
However, capacitor in eve feels quite different between say.. a capital and a frigate. If you extrapolate down to a dropsuit sized level, you would have some freedom to change things.
You don't HAVE to tie in everything to capacitor, you can take some liberty and say weapons and deployable equipment have their own capacitor, that kind of stuff is completely fine to take in the context of eve lore, considering the relative size of dropsuits vs ships in eve.
However, the idea of a shared depleting resource for active modules would be a great way to balance the activated portions of the game. For vehicles alone it would be so much better for balancing active modules compared to this timer crap that exists currently.
In this context you could implement active armor reps, active hardeners, all sorts of 'vehicle restricted' items. As long as the recharge is relatively quick (allowing you to run modules to capacitor depletion without excessive penalty) its not a problem. Cycling active modules with the number keys would not be difficult to do and it would add a real strategic element to game. It would give a balance to concepts like jump packs (a la Titanfall or Planetside 2) as well as items like remote reps, cloaking, sprinting, any type of scanning based active ewar, etc.
if Call of Duty can do it, so can Legion. Open your mind a little to the possibility.
If you truly think its not possible I would be interested to hear why. To say that pressing 1-4 during fps combat is too difficult is just not a valid response though, especially with the relatively high TTKs that already exist in the game.
B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.09.12 09:57:00 -
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Erm isnt that just for the special abilitys? Like a exo shield or more speed while running. And as far as i know those abilitys dont recharge.
They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of:
"GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
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ZDub 303
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Posted - 2014.09.12 10:26:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Erm isnt that just for the special abilitys? Like a exo shield or more speed while running. And as far as i know those abilitys dont recharge.
No kidding look at that. I guess I just assumed they would recharge cause one use per life is kind of dumb. But I guess it is COD after all...
It's still fairly related though, it is timer based abilities. I just propose they can also recharge as well.
B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
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Posted - 2014.09.12 14:53:00 -
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o STFU and get back on your chocobo 
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
853
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Posted - 2014.09.12 16:10:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:o STFU and get back on your chocobo
Is it a golden chocobo????
Odd concept I know, but I CAN play EVE,DUST, ANNNND Destiny!
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.14 15:45:00 -
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I'd love to see capacitors for vehicles and drop suits. It would add more depth to gameplay. It's particularly important for vehicle balance. You could make a maxed out vehicle a very expensive badass toy, that is always at risk of being crippled with Ewar, and taken down. This is a huge part of how EVE has balanced significant gear imbalances. A day 1 player can cripple a billion+ ISK ship and pin it down for his buddies to kill. It's very risky to undock in a ship that's too pimped out because you're a flying loot pi+Ķata that looks awesom on a killmail.
I don't really buy the argument that it's too difficult to manage either. Managing multiple cool down timers is harder than a single resource pool. It also allows for better balance. You can activate everything and rapidly suck your cap dry, or be more conservative and have a lot more sustainability. And of course you're always vulnerable to cap warfare tactics.
Best PvE idea ever!
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