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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.04 04:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
So, they get higher ehp and speeds and all gunnlogis have is maneuverability. Maddys also rep armor much better than gunnlogi shields because there is no delay. Plus their armor hardeners are better than shield hardeners. Not to mention, some of these armor tanks appear to maneuver with ease, especially when they hit that fuel injector.
Maneuverability hardly seems to be a great tradeoff
It is if you are trying to get around the battlefield or need to GTFO of the battlefield. It especially will become more valuable to use a Gunnlogi since Rattatai has mentioned for the Delta patch that they might be nerfing the effectiveness of injectors on tanks. It's also easier to maneuver a Missile or Rail Turret on a Gunnlogi since the Gunnlogi can turn faster while stationary. It is easier to maneuver them.....sure but it is moot when you're fighting a fuel injected maddy with a blaster turret. They have more health, faster, and mods are better. NO THEY DON'T HAVE MORE EHP, unless the two repairers contribute 3000EHP over the duration of the fight, which they very well might.
you have to speak slower, Ydubbs doesnt understand the different between rHP and eHP.
Assault since Replication.
We've come full circle.
Finally.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
829
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Posted - 2014.09.04 04:42:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:
It is if you are trying to get around the battlefield or need to GTFO of the battlefield. It especially will become more valuable to use a Gunnlogi since Rattatai has mentioned for the Delta patch that they might be nerfing the effectiveness of injectors on tanks. It's also easier to maneuver a Missile or Rail Turret on a Gunnlogi since the Gunnlogi can turn faster while stationary.
It is easier to maneuver them.....sure but it is moot when you're fighting a fuel injected maddy with a blaster turret. They have more health, faster, and mods are better. NO THEY DON'T HAVE MORE EHP, unless the two repairers contribute 3000EHP over the duration of the fight, which they very well might. you have to speak slower, Ydubbs doesnt understand the different between rHP and eHP. Yes....please speak slower and explan how the madrugar ehp is lower than a gunnlogi
he has been, youre not listening
take regen, resists, range, rofs and 'true' or 'optimized' fittings into account and you might actually learn something instead of sperging about.
Assault since Replication.
We've come full circle.
Finally.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
829
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Posted - 2014.09.04 04:43:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:also id take maneuverability and acceleration over top speed and hp anyday if the controls had a dedicated break/reverse/accelerate button.
tanks are unusable to me in dust because they drive like washing machines. you cant even turn left and right in them because when you rotate the stick halfway they get stuck between turning left and right and you just wiggle in place for a second. in bf you can just pop out from behind a house, pop someone and throw it in reverse like hide and seek and get back behind the house to reposition. when i get stuck turning or clipping on objects on the map its gets me killed. the tanks arent responsive and clunky.
Kbm dude, you can drive a cal tank like what a min lav should be, jesus mode for hit and run.,
Assault since Replication.
We've come full circle.
Finally.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.04 04:50:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:But still..even if you wanted to keep things inline with eve then the dropsuits, lavs, dropships, should all apply the same ideas. Even down to the weapons (faster ROF, more power, etc)
We have been saying that since day fcking one.
People such as yourself have been clamouring for a different game the entire time.
Just stop.
Assault since Replication.
We've come full circle.
Finally.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
831
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Posted - 2014.09.04 05:00:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:But still..even if you wanted to keep things inline with eve then the dropsuits, lavs, dropships, should all apply the same ideas. Even down to the weapons (faster ROF, more power, etc)
We have been saying that since day fcking one. People such as yourself have been clamouring for a different game the entire time. Just stop. Because it is a different game. Either way...it doesn't matter to me because it's all numbers. But it should be consistent and I don't necessarily mean consistent with eve. It should be consistent in Dust. If armor gear is faster than shield gear, then it should apply to dropsuits as well as tanks.
you CAN NOT make a game set in the same make believe land DIFFERENT because it undercuts all lore/mechanics blah ******* blah blahs of both games.
But thats what they did.
instead of following doctrines and principles well established in the giant space tactical spreadsheet game of eve, they continuously listening to the mewlings of console shooters who wanted it more twichty, more indescript, more rehash of everything else.
You won, and us who came here to play eves battlefields lost.
and now we re recanting the tale and youre arguing?
i dont ******* understand you!
Assault since Replication.
We've come full circle.
Finally.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
831
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:10:00 -
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#rekt
Assault since Replication.
We've come full circle.
Finally.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:47:00 -
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Patrlck 56 wrote:AFAIK they explained it before releasing 1.7. Gunnlogis have faster initial speed, Madrugars have faster speed once they get going.
Oh great, you summoned patrick...
Assault since Replication.
We've come full circle.
Finally.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.05 15:12:00 -
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Ydubbs, Im not gonig to lie, I rejoiced when you quit. Your 'crypost' when you left made me nearly ecstatic, do you want to know why?
Because for months all you'd ever do was hold a counter opinion to what was an agreed up consensus by the forum community, then badger and berrate your way into imprinting your usually wrong point into the less knowledgeable.
There was much crying and wailing from you and your camp anytime anything was changed or heaven forbid, balanced.
And now you're back, doing the same stupid arrogant idiotic shenanigans as before.
True, Patrick and Marsdon are some of the most knowledgeable, highest skilled and courteous armor drivers left. I'd listen to what they are telling you.
Yes, Tomhanks and company can roll your face with a blaster maddy.
Did you EVER stop to consider that possibly, they have entirely maxed out armor skill trees? And that they most likely were rolling over infantry while in the blaster maddy until some scrub tank rolled up and pissed them off?
Circumstantial and Anecdotal evidence IS NOT EVIDENCE for your point.
I honestly don't know why anyone responds to you anymore.
Myself included. 
If you quit DUST, dont effing come back, especially after cryposting when leaving.
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