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shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2776	Posted - 2014.09.03 12:14:00 - [1] - Quote If i can't fit a complex kincat, i choose something else. What's your opinion? PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" LOCK REGIONS
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 715	Posted - 2014.09.03 14:15:00 - [2] - Quote The enhanced ones are sort of acceptable, but still very steep. They should definitely be brought in line with other modules of their tier.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3729	Posted - 2014.09.03 16:31:00 - [3] - Quote Kincats are one of the mods I don't mind using at std level. It could just be psychological, but I think I feel a difference. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Dreis Shadowweaver D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 111	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:10:00 - [4] - Quote Why do they take so much PG anyway? Well, I once meleed an R.E.... I've only ever known 1.8... Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 400	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:26:00 - [5] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Kincats are one of the mods I don't mind using at std level. It could just be psychological, but I think I feel a difference. If your main goal isn't large speed, STD Kincats can be quite useful. They can give just enough of an edge to get round that corner before you die. On a few of my Logi fits I use a STD to offset the movement penalty of my plates, a godsend in games with a constantly changing front line. Depending on playstyle though, a Cardiac may be the better choice for some.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3731	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:31:00 - [6] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Why do they take so much PG anyway? Because in the past super fast speed has been known to "break the game" according to CCP. My guess is that the high cost is to reduce the issues of speed breaking the game. Also, at one point hit detection was much more significant an issue, and speed would play a part in that. In typical CCP fashion at the time, their solution was to nerf speed instead of flat out fix hit detection (for other examples of such nonsense, see stun lock). You can always tell a Millford Minja
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2779	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:33:00 - [7] - Quote Imo complex kincat are fine, but there not much room to buff std and adv. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" LOCK REGIONS
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3731	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:35:00 - [8] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Imo complex kincat are fine, but there not much room to buff std and adv. Fitting costs? You can always tell a Millford Minja
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2085	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:48:00 - [9] - Quote shaman oga wrote: If i can't fit a complex kincat, i choose something else. What's your opinion? With the last hotfix the ADV became the best one I was able to shoehorn on my Minja ALT. Complex isn't even an option. Before that it was a stamina mod. It was a difficult choice, being able to run obscene distances is fun. Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2779	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:52:00 - [10] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: shaman oga wrote: Imo complex kincat are fine, but there not much room to buff std and adv. Fitting costs? It would not be bad, but would you fit a module which give you a slight advantage when you can fit something else that is more useful? Imo even a basic ferroscale or reactive is better than a std kincat. I would give a second bonus just like regulators, maybe even a little walking speed bonus which does not raise too much with tiers something like 3/4/4% (random numbers). PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" LOCK REGIONS

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3731	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:56:00 - [11] - Quote shaman oga wrote: One Eyed King wrote: shaman oga wrote: Imo complex kincat are fine, but there not much room to buff std and adv. Fitting costs? It would not be bad, but would you fit a module which give you a slight advantage when you can fit something else that is more useful? Imo even a basic ferroscale or reactive is better than a std kincat. I would give a second bonus just like regulators, maybe even a little walking speed bonus which does not raise too much with tiers something like 3/4/4% (random numbers). We discussed something like this once, but found that the base walking speed is like the crux of everything, and that small change would affect everything else, including sprint speed, jump speed, and what was considered the most game breaking, strafe speed. I also knife a lot, so sometimes that minor difference in sprint speed means a lot for me. You can always tell a Millford Minja
I-Shayz-I I----------I 4758	Posted - 2014.09.03 20:22:00 - [12] - Quote it's because a basic kin cat is 10 pg while a complex is 15. No other basic module has rediculous pg costs like that. The only thing that comes close (but that isn't a module) is the mlt uplink and standard scanner 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 283	Posted - 2014.09.03 21:00:00 - [13] - Quote shaman oga wrote: If i can't fit a complex kincat, i choose something else. What's your opinion? Dude the standard one saved me a couple of times on my (pro) logi fits. Just that extra speed to get behind cover.
Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 174	Posted - 2014.09.04 05:40:00 - [14] - Quote Yeah, i agree the kincats are a bit steep. STD and ADV are just enough to give you that extra speed to either offset any movement penalties are that extra oomph to get to the fight or around the corner. Those complexes do take a lot but of course, we don't want any stackers to speed stack so much it breaks the game. Maybe 2 or 3 pg reduction is ok but i think if you are thinking about fitting complex kincats then you are going to have to make sacrifices for that speed if its worth that much too you. In the end, you have to make sacrifices, you simply can't have your cake and eat it too. I myself have discovered the uniqueness of fitting cardio upgrades and they are FREAKING FANTASTIC on ADV and PRO Min assaults. You can SPRINT FOR DAAYYYZZZ! I can fix a complex kincat and complex cardio on PRO with max cores with somewhat reduced tank but its only a starting concept. I find that i can't have a ferroscale and armor rep without sacrificing my regulator...I NEEDS THAT SHIELD REGULATOR. 8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears OMG the Tears!! :)
The Eristic Dust 90210 644	Posted - 2014.09.04 09:34:00 - [15] - Quote Cut KC PG to 4-7-10. No longer any reason whatsoever for their PG cost to be so astronomical! Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.


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