DUST Search - So drive by burst HMG - so totally op its not funny.

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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:

ugg reset wrote:

Ryme Intrinseca wrote:

It's not just the HMG LAV thing, maps are totally infested with hit and run LAV drivers now, who just try to run people over all game. It's an absolutely ridiculous thing to have in an FPS. I think the solution is to make LAVs vulnerable to small arms fire. Half a clip of AR should be sufficient put an LAV into the 'on fire, jump out now or die' stage.

psst! there is a counter. it is called a militia HAV!

You shouldn't have to do a specific counter to such scrubiness, that then makes it a legitimate tactic. Running the enemy over in a jeep is not and never has been a widespread battlefield tactic, for the simple reason that you'd instantly get chewed up by small arms fire. It's only Dust's crazy logic that means a super fast, super light, super cheap vehicle can circle squads of infantry indefinitely without serious risk of injury unless they happened to bring full blown anti-tank weapons.

A MLT HAV isn't The counter to your problem it's just the best one I could think of off the top of my head. Ground vehicles have their place in Dust, it's open, flat, space. so if you can't stand the heat get back in the city.

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Running the enemy over in a jeep is not and never has been a widespread battlefield tactic, for the simple reason that you'd instantly get chewed up by small arms fire.

says you, go play a combat SIM(or get some fresh air). a low brow game like this is just a waste of your precious time.

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Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1723	Posted - 2014.09.03 17:54:00 - [31] - Quote ugg reset wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: ugg reset wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: It's not just the HMG LAV thing, maps are totally infested with hit and run LAV drivers now, who just try to run people over all game. It's an absolutely ridiculous thing to have in an FPS. I think the solution is to make LAVs vulnerable to small arms fire. Half a clip of AR should be sufficient put an LAV into the 'on fire, jump out now or die' stage. psst! there is a counter. it is called a militia HAV! You shouldn't have to do a specific counter to such scrubiness, that then makes it a legitimate tactic. Running the enemy over in a jeep is not and never has been a widespread battlefield tactic, for the simple reason that you'd instantly get chewed up by small arms fire. It's only Dust's crazy logic that means a super fast, super light, super cheap vehicle can circle squads of infantry indefinitely without serious risk of injury unless they happened to bring full blown anti-tank weapons. A MLT HAV isn't The counter to your problem it's just the best one I could think of off the top of my head. Ground vehicles have their place in Dust, it's open, flat, space. so if you can't stand the heat get back in the city. Quote: Running the enemy over in a jeep is not and never has been a widespread battlefield tactic, for the simple reason that you'd instantly get chewed up by small arms fire. says you, go play a combat SIM(or get some fresh air). a low brow game like this is just a waste of your precious time. You seem awful defensive. Get out of your scrubmobile, get gun game, git gud
Boot Booter Pure Evil. 897	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:49:00 - [32] - Quote Just pack some AV grenades. I know it's a pain but some good AV nades will take out the LAV, and usually the heavy inside it panics or dies when his precious car blows up. I have also once sneakily hacked a heavies LAV then subsequently ran him over. Not really a viable tactic but it was pretty funny. What happened to the repair tool glow? Why won't CCP answer? Conspiracy?
Mauren NOON The Exemplars 432	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:55:00 - [33] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Hyuan BubblePOP wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: I have not played this game in a month or so but have been playing again a bit recently. All I have to say is - WTF did CCP do to the burst HMG? One of those LAV heavies drove up to me yesterday, jumped out with his burst HMG an killed my 600hp suit (granted 600 hp is not huge) in like a nano second. Brrrrrrmp DEAD. What the actual feck? I saw a burst hmg player using a modded controller the other day, Postilloneonin i think was his name. destroyed my proto gall sentinel in 1 sec or one trigger pull for him, while being repped by 2 proto logis. was probably manual fireing but you can get 2-3 bursts off in a second and each one is like 1350 damage (before damage profiles) so yeah it can eat people alive also did i mention FOTm is like amarr sent+burst hmg as amarr sent can get like 800-900 shields and 1300 near 1400 armor.. thats Ducking Futs So with 1 high slot, we go from 450 shield to 800? K. I see you do math..... Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2086	Posted - 2014.09.03 20:18:00 - [34] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: snip This thread is about the abuse of a totally broken game mechanic and a OP weapon system. If the goal is to vent then all the more power to you. I do it a lot when dealing with Dust 514. Rest assured something is going to be done about direct fire high ROF weapons with big-damage-short-timed-interval-damage in Hotfix Delta. The Burst HMG, Scrambler Rifle, and even Assault SMGs are all on the chopping block. If Burst HMGs pulling Murder Taxi 1.0 keep ruining the game just take a two or three week vacation from the game. Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game
Sergeant Sazu New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 110	Posted - 2014.09.03 21:15:00 - [35] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Just pack some AV grenades. I know it's a pain but some good AV nades will take out the LAV, and usually the heavy inside it panics or dies when his precious car blows up. I have also once sneakily hacked a heavies LAV then subsequently ran him over. Not really a viable tactic but it was pretty funny. I used to carry Packed AV Grenades 24/7 on my Caldari Assault back in the day. LAVs didn't dare challenge me... Now I carry 2, and LAVs don't die. :( Just an idea, but maybe all small arms should take the path of the Nova Knives and have 1/2 of their usual efficiency on vehicles. Of course, the vehicle shield recharge should never pause until they're depleted to prevent HMGs or a team of ARs killing tanks. (AV would still make it pause) Sergeant Sazu(Boundless Breach Submachine Gun)Redberry Redberry: "Wait, I got killed by what?" I'm that unicorn.
I-Shayz-I I----------I 4762	Posted - 2014.09.03 22:23:00 - [36] - Quote Shotgun scouts can appear from cloak and one-shot a 600 ehp suit with a shotgun. I don't see how this tactic is any different. At least heavies are in a loud car that can be seen from miles away and can be easily countered/dealt with. Heck, you can run away from a heavy in a LAV easier than you can a shotgun scout. You can even hide from a heavy in a LAV. shotgun scouts can passively scan you no matter where you hide. I would rather have some sort of animation for getting in/out of the vehicle but that's not happening. Even a 2-3 second delay that you have to hold the button would work to prevent pilots from jumping out of their vehicles just before they are destroyed. That said, I don't encourage or defend this tactic, I'm just saying that I have never had an issue countering this tactic no matter what suit I'm in...and don't understand why so many people seem to have such a hard time dealing with it. I have more issues with rail rifles, thales, proto shotguns, large railguns, remotes, and being run over than I do with the rare HMG/LAV combo. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!

GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 381	Posted - 2014.09.04 01:34:00 - [37] - Quote Time for some... "testing"... But seriously, this is nothing new. GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

IVIaster LUKE Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 674	Posted - 2014.09.04 01:56:00 - [38] - Quote We're talking about a game that let's a KNIFE destroy vehicles. I'm so used to unbalance I forgot what balance is.....Double "THALE" Galante Militia Light Frame BPO with dual "DREN" Scrambler pistols. Priceless fun R.I.P. BENDECCO 1970 - 2014

GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 382	Posted - 2014.09.04 02:09:00 - [39] - Quote A close-quarters melee weapon, the nova knife is as deadly a weapon as anything on the battlefield. Its name derives from the heated plasma edge of the blade GÇô formed by a thermic igniter and linear gravity condenser GÇô that, in skilled hands, can be used to carve through even the thickest dropsuit armor. It's so much more than just a knife. Think gravity hammer, or monomolecular wire...don't just assume it's a kitchen knife. GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

IVIaster LUKE Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 674	Posted - 2014.09.04 02:14:00 - [40] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: A close-quarters melee weapon, the nova knife is as deadly a weapon as anything on the battlefield. Its name derives from the heated plasma edge of the blade GÇô formed by a thermic igniter and linear gravity condenser GÇô that, in skilled hands, can be used to carve through even the thickest dropsuit armor. It's so much more than just a knife. Think gravity hammer, or monomolecular wire...don't just assume it's a kitchen knife. Fair enough. o7 Sorry couldn't help myself but, what's a Plasma rifle do? "THALE" Galante Militia Light Frame BPO with dual "DREN" Scrambler pistols. Priceless fun R.I.P. BENDECCO 1970 - 2014



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